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Thread: Election Year or Fear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaledale View Post
    I've seen it with many on the left who believe either Cobyn's shower or The Greens are the answer to Labour's shift rightwards, they don't seem to be able to comprehend that the majority of voters in the UK aren't going to be attracted by a hard left party, even if some policies are to their advantage and that splitting the left vote is just going to make it more likely that a far right party or more likely a coalition of far right parties is likely to gain power as a result.
    Nutshell!
    I’m sure Corbyn is a decent enough chap and, like Diane Abbott, a good local MP, but in the grown up world of national/global politics he’s a liability and as soon as I heard his and Sultana’s proposals I reached the same conclusion.
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    Read a piece online that said Trump's machinations aren't as daft as they seem. The theory being that, by stopping Venezuelan oil going to China on the cheap to help pay off their 60 billion debt means China will have to start paying much more for their oil which will hit China. By backing the Iranian protests regime change will come and that will stop Russia getting cheap Iranian oil as well as removing their middle east influence. Greenland is another where he's looking at the bigger picture, talking about a takeover which will see NATO countries end up agreeing to the reopening (by European NATO countries) of the bases the US closed down and maybe adding in some US bases as well AND, of course, getting a good deal for the USA on Greenland's rare minerals.

    This will all help put a stop to thoughts of the US dollar losing importance which will help the US economy.

    Add in my own thoughts that if he did take Greenland by force, the European NATO countries could dump all the US Treasury Bonds which would send the US economy into a spiral.

    So, which side of the genius line is Trump on? I think we'll find out in the near future. Has he calculated badly or is he the genius he has always claimed to be?

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    I tried to post something to this effect a couple of days ago but the system was playing up and I gave up after three goes. In esence he is playing a bigger game and doesnt necessarily need the Venezuelan oil, but rather to stop others getting it, thus winning a bigger trade/AI/currency battle over China. It does make seemingly good sense if you have the balls to do it. he has the balls and his strategists have the genius perhaps: doubt this is all the Donald's joined up thinking. I think Greenland is more to break China's almost monopoly on rare earth metals.

    The other point is that Venezuelan oil is a bit of a curates egg - they have big reserves but very little of it is in production as its very heavy crude (almost solid I understand from those that do) and so extraction cost is high (like deep water drilling) hence when prices are low - like now - it makes no economic sense to put it into production. If Venezuelan sources dry up, the Chinese teapots will have to go elsewhere, eg Iran or Russia, and pay more for the oil as its more refined (although quite a bit of Iranian crude is fairly heavy too) - hence the Donald is no doubt happy to see Iran protests mounting and maybe heading for regime change.

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    One thing he may have missed is that most of the Greenland rare minerals lie in ground with a 1 mile thick layer of ice above it...

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    but as he is encouraging global warming with non ecofriendly policies, the ice will soon melt and make them more accessible!!

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    Should just bury Trump and Farage and the rest of their ilk under the ice with the rest of the dinosaurs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SithHappens View Post
    Another day Another tory defection to Reform, Another example of Farage and the defectee looking stupid.
    The lovely, loyal Jenrick now. Wanted to lead the Tories just over a year ago, now he seeks to discredit them. What a bunch of untrustworthy, two faced treacherous tw@ts Farage is now the leader of. Fitting really.

    P.S. Victoria Atkins anticipated next apparently.
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    It is amusing, both were slagging each other off quite recently!

    Jenrick has always been a slippery customer, did the former **** baron Desmond a favour over planning consent, was remainer who quickly became a right winger, so desperate to prove how "hard" he was, had murals painted over at a centre for asylum children.

    So increasingly, reform is being made up of the incompetent, untrustworthy tw@ts who were in the last Tory government, some chnage in politics there then!!

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    And yet still labour/Starmer has one of the lowest approval ratings of any standing government ever. What a **** storm UK politics is at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    The lovely, loyal Jenrick now. Wanted to lead the Tories just over a year ago, now he seeks to discredit them. What a bunch of untrustworthy, two faced treacherous tw@ts Farage is now the leader of. Fitting really.

    P.S. Victoria Atkins anticipated next apparently.
    Im actually impressed with the way Badenoch handled it to be honest.

    Caught snippets of the press conference and it was painful.

    Interesting how 'medieval attitudes to exploitation of women and children ' was mentioned This in a party whos leader openly supports people found guilty of rape, thinks Andrew Tate is an important voice for young men, and recently sided with Musk and X regarding the use of the grok tool to exploit children and women online, in fact openly caught laughing about child **** in pmqs.

    Im sure it won't be the last of the defections I agree.

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