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Aren't all the Reform Ltd MP's former Blue Tory politicians. Aren't all the Reform Ltd career politicians not yet elected as Reform Ltd MP's former Blue Tory MP's. Does that not make them all, current and prospective Reform Ltd MP's, part of the collective failure that went before?
That's the idiocy of it all. So many Blue Tories who are part of the problem changing horses in a vain attempy to win a long lost race? They'll simply do more of the same and make things worse rather than better.
....and if you were to remove ambition from the core of everyone, the economy and then society would collapse. Ambition drives entrepreneurship and even the simple act of getting out of bed. If noone had ambition....everything would collapse indeed. its a ludicrous comment IMHO to criticse anyone for having ambition as if its a bad thing
God you’re so extreme and use the tactic of misinterpretation so regularly.
Who has said that we should ‘remove ambition’? Who has criticised anyone for having ambition? MP’s point was that when ambition outweighs ability, as it clearly does, imo, in Jenrick’s case, then you have a problem. My point was, that I’ve come across many people in many walks of life who’s ambition has unrealistically exceeded their ability - from kids at school who think they’re going to be pro footballers to Liz Truss believing she’d be a successful PM - and it invariably ends in tears.
My ‘we’ referred to that percentage of the electorate who have sufficient intelligence and insight to recognise Farage and Reform’s shortcomings rather than the majority on here who feel the same.
More interesting perhaps is your disrespectful reference to ‘four old farts’ on a ‘moribund forum’. If that’s your perception maybe it’s you who should ‘be more open to giving someone new a chance’. Certainly wasn’t a ‘moribund forum’ when you took over.
Last edited by ramAnag; 18-01-2026 at 09:30 AM.
rA "My ?we? referred to that percentage of the electorate who have sufficient intelligence and insight ..."
To agree with me???
What elitist socialist arrogance - I hope this attitude is not typical of today's generation of teachers. Everyone who disagrees with me must be unintelligent? Really? Thats a statement I'd expect of Farage et al but not from a liberal woke individual at least historically responsible for developing the intelligence of generations of children, no doubt many of whom are now Reform supporters (statistically)