Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
Echo chamber? I suspect no one responded because most can only agree but have nothing to add to Sith’s appraisal.

It is, self evidently, a very difficult time for Starmer and he has obviously made a huge error of judgement.
In his defence he isn’t the first to have been taken in by Mandelson. Blair and Brown have also fallen victim to his political ‘charm’ and intelligence and, perhaps less surprisingly, Trump didn’t seem to have any problem with Mandelson - possibly because of their previous shared friendships - prior to Starmer terminating his tenure as the U.S. Ambassador.

Question seems to be. Amongst all the self serving hand wringing from the usual suspects amongst his political rivals and those on the left of the Labour Party, is this enough to bring Starmer down? I for one don’t know the answer. He has, undoubtedly, made a serious error of judgement, but virtually all of Mandelson’s alleged wrongdoing took place over a decade and a half ago, long before Starmer assumed power within his party let alone the country.

So, apart from admiring one particular left wing Labour politician’s tenacity, where do you stand on Starmer’s future?
As leader of the LP? It’s out of his hands, I think he’s lost some of the dressing room and to some extent hasn’t had it since the GE

As PM? If he lasts as leader of LP I hope but don’t expect that the current administration go full term and with him in charge, as you may have missed amongst all the acrimony I’ve always hoped that - he seems to understand the challenges of the job, he’s just not doing very well at it in the view of the plebs. Of course all that opinion may be irrelevant come the next revelation or crisis, whatever it may be