Farke so far this season

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Would welcome your thoughts - mine below.

He has done some very good things and we?ve played some really good football. I thought we?d be lower in the league after the first couple of months so credit where credit is due.

For a brief period he played much more attacking football and was making subs earlier so he had it in him. He just seems to be innately cautious so when the pressure is off seems to revert to that.

Not sure how flexible he is mentally with tactics and how well he reads a game in real time.

His late subs seem to be a problem on many fronts

Players get tired and are left on
The momentum shifts and we can?t get it back
Players who need more game time don?t get it
When said players come on maybe they try to hard

He seems to have favourites and bear grudges

How Piroe gets on the pitch before Tanaka, Longstaff, Gnonto and at times James is beyond me.

It also means until injuries players don?t get opportunities to shine - if Bogle hadn?t got injured would Justin have had May minutes and he has been exceptional.

Whatever the outcome one of the season if the club want to progress then sadly for Farke unless he can change his spots and the hustler is unlikely to say yes then this summer we need to upgrade the coach too.

We have thrown away points by his cautious stubbornness and as Rev pointed out we could easily be 10 points better off.

[ozleeds]

His no different to Bielsa in tactics and favs. We hit form when we went no wingers 3 cb and 2 strikers. Now he plays basically a 4 4 2 game style no wingers but more or less 1 striker Aaronson and 4 mids with either bogle or justin alternating.
Why change a strategy that got you back in the game to this.
He always has been a poor manager and nothing I have seen is changing my mind.
Hope forest which i think will find form as it might end up been us or spurs to go down and I know who the corrupt league is going to save.

[spaldy]

Hoping he uses he cup tie as a change back to 2 strikers.

we really need to have a game where we attack and dominate to restore the faith like after the first Citeh game

[Billyni]

Basically shyte.
We all know we should be 10/12 points better off and clear of trouble.
We all know the team can play better because we've all seen it.
Only man who doesn't know is Farke.
We're all cheek clenching now until the end of the season, instead we should be having drinks and a cigar.
Hope that clears things up.
Am I angry?yes.

[Pacaman]

I can’t add anything of worth to that which has already been said other than to agree with most of what’s been said.

V Black Cats was unfortunately and uncannily reminiscent of what was tried unsuccessfully before and for the love of me I don’t get it. Unsuccessful then and will be unsuccessful going forward.

We have the players!

[WTF11]

This may sound strange coming from me given what I’ve said about Farke in the past (none of which I withdraw by the way), but…..I feel a bit sorry for the guy. Why you may ask?

Look at his record since his playing career ended, in particular since the time he became Norwich manager…

In his first season he managed a 14th place finish, then promoted to the PL in his second season, then relegated in third, promoted again in his next season, then sacked after one of the longest runs without a win in PL history. Finished at Norwich with 87w, 49d, 72l

Went to Gladbach for just about a year before being sacked again, record there 12w, 10d, 14l

Then to Leeds, missing out on promotion first season then doing better with the Championship title.

So, a record of ups and downs, little in the way of consistency (except being inconsistent in terms of results) and (I suspect) a growing sense of “Am I good enough to make it?”. He probably wouldn’t admit to such a thing, not even to himself, but the caution that many on here have mentioned could well be the product of a lack of self-confidence and a consequent reluctance to change anything (even when its plain to other outside observers that change is necessary).

If that is the case, whilst his behaviour may appear similar to that of Bielsa, the underlying reasoning is vastly different. Bielsa never lacked self-confidence, quite the opposite, his stubbornness was borne out of a firm belief in his own abilities and a degree of disdain/rejection for those who might challenge him (as with Jansson).

Farke doesn’t change because he fears the uncertainty that change inevitably introduces, something he finds hard to cope with. The evidence of what change can do has been writ large in most of the recent games, most remarkably in the first City game where we spent the first half having a new one ripped with no threat or any form of PL-style play, and in the second we were putting (supposedly) the best team in the world to the sword and only narrowly being defeated. Nevertheless, whatever it was that sparked that remarkable turnaround has gradually seeped away over subsequent games, the leopard can’t change his spots, no matter what the signs tell him.

That’s why I’m sorry for him. He’s spent over a decade achieving very little (relatively speaking), and given that lack of achievement the voices in his head won’t be the most encouraging to listen to. Players aren’t the only ones who from time to time need some psychological support, perhaps he would benefit from that kind of “assist”, to break the shackles and realise that he had a significant role to play in making Leeds dangerous this last month or two, and could do so again?

[MrsORichSenior_]

two points from my Farke neutral perch
his second season in pl with Norwich they sold his ace card in Buendia in the summer and then spent bugger all in his remaining window so I really do not think he can be fairly judged on his Canaries past pl experience as Pep Guardiola would have failed with the resources Farke was given end of as the Canaries were the only self-funded pl club back then without a wealthy benefactor just majority shareholders Delia and her hubby Michael Wynn-Jones sat on joint wealth of 23m?? resulting in Farke playing a poor squad in a dour 3-5-2 defensive combo which still shipped in the goals and ultimately the final chop from Delia and co.

Farkes 2022/23 stint at Monchengladbach was only considered a failure because he finished 10th in back to back seasons as they failed to gain European contention and stuttered to mid league mediocrity. i can recall the many heated debates on my Football Supporters Europe rosta duty shifts that his whole tenure in reality was severely marred by financial constraints not helped by a stale contracted squad and the main problem being a total lack of team fan connection by playing sleep inducing regular inconsistent low intensity football to dig out welcome points to stop further slides down the league.

concluding for me on his Leeds tenure to date that if 49 era want pl survival then stick and invest primarily starting with a consistent striker for him.not great for Farke maybe or indeed anyones aspirations otherwise it will be a big thank you and good bye but winners in coaching require better players which cost which Farke knows only to well and has had the dignity to plough on regardless at all his clubs and take the can for it ultimately.

the Sunderland pre season summer transfer spend was 155m on 14 new signings and their new look team has hit the ground running with an excellent coach being able to assemble his squad to good effect for now anyway?? our summer spend on fitness misfits and eager honest pros was 1.7m.

so compared to Sunderlands last 5 year net spend resulting in a -140.04m hit and a Leeds last 5 years hit rumoured to be a circa net spend of -75.4m then compared to the Forest last 5 years net spend at -328.86m and the West Ham last 5 year net spend being 317.1m it will give the 49ers something to dwell over regarding head coach or manager appointments alongside their ER developments and what our individual fans will exactly require now and how far our fans threadbare wallets can be yet again be stretched by the current ER hierarchy who behind the scenes now have wider eyes focused on the new breed of the one off day tripper neutral fans with bigger wallets eager to sample our grounds unique atmosphere.

no doubt an eventful chain of events awaits us all.

MOT