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  1. #21
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    14 points from 60. Baffling signings baffling substitutions baffling interviews.
    He’s arrogant because he knows he is not getting the sack.
    I said it the other week and I’ll say it again the worst manager we have ever had.
    If he was a miller he would resign.
    Yet some still stick up for him it’s just lunacy.
    95% of the fan base think he’s got to go. A season ticket holder of 50 years who comes with us has written to the club telling them he won’t return whilst MH is still here. TBH 10 of us go home and away and we are all considering the same action.
    He simply is a liability and a waste of time. If he was my family I’d be telling him he’s embarrassing himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronners View Post
    I went today with my son, and we certainly didn't deserve to lose, but you don't always get what you deserve. It was a scrappy game, and a goal worthy of winning a scrappy game, but I really have to question why MH took Harry Gray off? Both Gray and Nombe were at least causing problems and Harry didn't look tired to me and also looked unhappy to be taken off. I'm not totally blaming the manager for the defeat but I personally didn't understand the need to take gray off when I personally thought he still looked a real threat going forward. Anyway, the manager has to deal with a squad full of important injured players, so fingers crossed that they come back sooner rather than later. UTM.
    Gray looked fine to me as well but someone in the match thread said that when he went off he had an ice pack on his leg. And at the final whistle he definitely hobbled down the tunnel. Hopefully nothing serious but it's possibly why he came off.

    It doesn't matter anyway, we could still be playing now and we wouldn't have scored.

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    Can 't understand why he didn't start with Watmore & Powell.
    Pair Watmore with Gray upfront, put Nombre on the bench, then bring him on when Watmore has run out of steam.
    Use your best players from the start, & try & get a goal or 2.
    Martha ought to be on the subs bench & stay there.

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    Watmore not up to the fitness levels required. Nombe needed a big forward to feed off not kids at the side of him. January signings have failed us. Kelly did his job today. Martha lightweight as usual.

  5. #25
    Strange really, if you add it all up?.
    I am neither for nor against MH. The jury is still out. But I cannot help thinking the alleged 95% against him is not the entire number polled who attend a game.
    I can see why some on here are getting hot under the collar. We are not in a great position, true.
    Consistency is out the window, but we know why, that is down to injured players in and out, not a best settled side. 100%.
    People are picking over reason why, some right, some wrong, some guesswork.

    look at the donny game. If not for a keeper who has cost us many points, there would have been a draw most likely. 1pt.

    The plymouth a deserved win with a line up change that plus gore and powell coming back, if we can keep all fit, we stand more than a chance.
    3pts.
    And then players out and team disrupted. Mansfield, a draw. 1pt.
    Hudders bar a freak goal, another draw. 1pt.

    A win, 3 draws. Mid table fare. A close call if you look at those games. Fresh legs at the beginning of those games.
    Benson and watmore playing well, but it proves once one goes injured, the other legs go, for now, things destabilise again.
    Four games.
    A damned sight better than we were doing before?.but look how long powell, gore disappeared for, while other players were in and out.

    We have a complex number of issues. Medical staff, not enough. Old players, injury prone ones, young inexperienced kids and some in my opinion like martha look disinterested. Defence, look how well Douglas was doing, made Jules look a pedestrian half the time.

    I do not know if MH is able to make any of this better. What I do believe for a fact, if what I can see for sure, if we had removed Dawson much earlier like Oct. Had the likes of Gray, Nombe at his fittest all the time, Gore there, powell, integrated Douglas, baptise or agbaire,
    as a core basic unit, things would have been different.

    The point is much is down to injuries, and of course, watmore, gray, could not be here sooner. Stewart said, or gave instructions to say MH would be given the tools. Really. Has that happened fully?

    We will not find out if someone else over these weeks could have done any better. We just do not know.

    But what I do know and have seen, with players gelling and fit, if only for one half, all together, playing in much the same way, they did well. So at that point, the first half in one game against the great plymouth, not, we ran rings round them, then another game for the 20 in a second half.
    Which shows the application of what is cannot be all bad. But things are conspiring. It has to be factored in.

    More of what we have seen in two games, cannot be just ignored, because the players were mostly not there before and we had problems.
    Could kelly replace gore and do the same? Of course not. This is just one example. There are other areas just the same.

    We are guessing one way and the other if things could be better or will be with a free hand next time around.
    We have spent little money, deadwood hanging over. Patched up in january, and recently shown we can play when key players are fit.

    All the negatives are for good reason, clear to see. And the club as a whole are responsible, injuries have seen to the rest. Whether team management could have made any difference, with a neutral head, I do not think any of us can truly know.

    Simply because of injuries and constant necessary changes.

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    All down to injuries, but we ignore the fact that injuries at this level is not just bad luck, there are reasons things do not happen without cause. Firstly we do not have all the staff employed at the club needed, yet a COO that has little clue what is going on stays employed. We have a fitness coach that can?t keep players fit, we are told that we didn?t have a data analyst until recently and also that MH and his coaching staff haven?t raised any concerns about the back room staff or the lack of them. Our players get a lot of injuries from just stretching, they are not capable of playing football at his level for 40 plus games a season. Recruitment issues are there and MH takes no accountability for his team, only excuses. Today in the post match we even list Kayode on the absence list a bloke that hasn?t played 10 full games for us since god was a lad. It isn?t all MH fault, players that don?t look after themselves to be available for work, a chairman that wasn?t here when we needed him to take tough decisions. The club is a disaster top to bottom and we deserve to go down because we are not very good, the table doesn?t lie. MH will never be a football manager while ever his has a hole in his **** those that think our situation is only down to injuries are delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_time_miller View Post
    Strange really, if you add it all up?.
    I am neither for nor against MH. The jury is still out
    There's nothing strange about the situation whatsoever and I think you're being totally disingenuous regarding the issues at the club.

    Let's be honest, we've been garbage all season. We were even garbage against a 10 man Port Vale team, back in August. There are very few games where we can say we truly played well. The bookies knew we were relegation fodder back in November because every single statistic out there had us amongst the worst sides in the league.

    We've scored 1 goal from open play in the last SEVEN games. Yet we have Nombe, Gray and Watmore on the pitch. The manager can't get a tune out of them because he doesn't know what he's doing. He signs 6 players in January and aside from Gray and Watmore, none can get a game. We have the worst away record in the league, AGAIN.

    As for injuries, it's simple. We've signed injury prone players, players who aren't used to playing this many games and have training and rehabilitation methods which aren't working for this group of players. It can't be working. How many players have had 2, 3 or even 4 injuries this season? It's outrageous. It doesn't matter how you want to slice it, this all comes down to Hamshaw and his coaching staff. That's where the accountability is and that's why we're in this mess.

    I desperately wanted Hamshaw to succeed because I bought into this idea of buying young emerging talent, developing them and thus creating assets for the club. But this is now a badly failed project and a complete dereliction of duty from the board to keep Hamshaw in situ.

    Furthermore, are you going to trust this guy to rebuild a squad which has 20+ players out of contract in the summer?
    Last edited by Heliosphan78; Yesterday at 11:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_time_miller View Post
    I do not know if MH is able to make any of this better. What I do believe for a fact, if what I can see for sure, if we had removed Dawson much earlier like Oct. Had the likes of Gray, Nombe at his fittest all the time, Gore there, powell, integrated Douglas, baptise or agbaire,
    as a core basic unit, things would have been different
    Would it though?

    You talk about Nombe not being fit for much of the season. He's fit now though isn't he? Yet we've scored one goal in open play in the last seven games. That's over TEN HOURS of football. Let that sink in. Yet you dig out the goalkeeper as if that's where the problem is.

    Gore has played in 26 out of the 35 league games so far, Powell has played in 27. It's not as if they've been missing all season, and there will be some overlap there too. It's a squad game. All clubs have injuries, it's part and parcel of football but when a club has the level of injuries we've had and on such a consistent basis, you begin to question exactly why that is.

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