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[Andy_Faber]

I’m not confusing anything, AF and of course I’m not suggesting he’s not a Muslim. Fact is all Islamists are Muslims but NOT all Muslims are Islamists, far from it. Surprised I’ve had to explain that one.

OK thats cleared that up although I'm not sure what provenance your 'far from it' has. Some on here (not sure if that includes you) have asserted that all the 'Unite The Nation' marchers were 'far right', similarly without provenance. Likewise all Brexit voters and all MAGA hat wearers are 'idiots'. Just looking for balance/clarity, 'influencers' that we all are

[ramAnag]

OK thats cleared that up although I'm not sure what provenance your 'far from it' has. Some on here (not sure if that includes you) have asserted that all the 'Unite The Nation' marchers were 'far right', similarly without provenance. Likewise all Brexit voters and all MAGA hat wearers are 'idiots'. Just looking for balance/clarity, 'influencers' that we all are

Unusual amount of ‘whataboutery’ there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree…all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ‘idiots’…a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

[Andy_Faber]

Unusual amount of ?whataboutery? there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree?all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ?idiots??a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

Ah well...

[swaledale]

Unusual amount of ‘whataboutery’ there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree…all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ‘idiots’…a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

The MAGA apologist on this Forum RA!

[Andy_Faber]

The MAGA apologist on this Forum RA!

Yawn, when reason is exhausted name calling starts. It’s been your way for over a decade, and please feel free to have the last word you crave

[swaledale]

Yawn, when reason is exhausted name calling starts. It’s been your way for over a decade, and please feel free to have the last word you crave

Mm reason? Not seen a whole lot of sense, reason or indeed condemnation from you on recent events to be fair.

Name calling? You are very keen to be an apologist for both the MAGA cause and other right wing idiots, whilst offering absolutely no criticism of even certain actions. so describing you as a MAGA apologist is perfectly reasonable.

Whats been my way for over a decade is having no patience for people who spout rubbish or are unable to substantiate their views or claims with actual facts and evidence. I don't suffer fools gladly and I'm not particulary enamoured with people who defend actions which any reasonable person, whatever their political leaning, would roundly condemn.

I call a spade a spade, or in your case an uniformed, narrow minded bigoted, racist idiot who prefers to believe a false narrative that fits their agenda, rather than face facts.

Anyway, I'd refer you back a few posts where you challenged my assertion that anybody currently celebrating Trump's action in Iran was a fool! Mm your looking rather foolish now aren't you?

[swaledale]

Unusual amount of ?whataboutery? there for you, AF.
Generally and widely accepted that Islamists represent only a small percentage of the 2 billion Muslims in the world and that is the only point I was making, although I do have to agree?all MAGA hat wearers/supporters are indeed ?idiots??a sentiment that seems to be becoming clearer every day.

Your being unfair RA, not all MAGA supporters are idiots, a substantial number just see it as a way that furthers thier personal or business interests and have no thought to the negtaive effects as long as its not them that is affected. Though this foolish attack on Iran, might just alter their views a little if it ****s up the world economy!

[swaledale]

OK thats cleared that up although I'm not sure what provenance your 'far from it' has. Some on here (not sure if that includes you) have asserted that all the 'Unite The Nation' marchers were 'far right', similarly without provenance. Likewise all Brexit voters and all MAGA hat wearers are 'idiots'. Just looking for balance/clarity, 'influencers' that we all are

Balance? Coming from someone who as far as I am aware, has not mentioned anything negative with Trump's recent foray into promoting "world peace", who got hot and heavy when I accidentally posted that 40% of those attending the disgraceful riots, supposedly in defence of women and children, were known to the Police for actual offences or suspected offences of child abuse, domestic abuse and ***ual assault as against 40% of those arrested, though given the angle you often push, one might reasonably suspect that the 40% was a reasonable indication that a fair percentage of those not arrested had similar issues!

Who cites "lived experience" as sufficient proof that the citizens of Great yarmouth, with a very small perecentage ethnic/immigrant population had been impacted significantly by immigration.

Who expressed the view that Charlie Kirk merely debated a different view, rather than spread deeply offensive and discriminatory, white nationalist, homophobic, right wing propoganda.

Your balance apperas to be ensuring that a populist, racist, xenophobic and in some cases outright facist view is presented.

Not a good look really.