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  1. #1
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    Chelski

    Getting away with it again.

    The joy of being a memeber of the cartel 6.

    Their historic finanical issues have given them a record ?10.7 million fine and a 2 year suspended 1 year transfer ban.

    It's not as harsh as Everton or Forrest because it pre-dates PSR and Chelsea brought the issue to their attention and we're so very helpful.

    I think it's *******s and it stinks.

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    Its nothing short of a disgrace. A nothing fine for them and suspended transfer ban. What is the point of the latter???

    ?Chelsea made 36 separate payments totalling ?47.5m to 12 individuals ? via a series of third-parties, which were primarily registered in the British Virgin Islands.

    "obvious and deliberate breaches" which also "involved deception and concealment in relation to financial matters".

    But no points deduction because they admitted the offence??? Stinks to high heaven.
    Blatant and purposeful cheating is fine if youre in the cartel.

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    So...cheat then admit it and you get away with it.

    The punishment is absolutely laughable.

    And Chelsea aree the ones who are laughing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    So...cheat then admit it and you get away with it.

    The punishment is absolutely laughable.

    And Chelsea aree the ones who are laughing.
    Not even that, because Everton admitted it and we're helpful but we're still held to a higher account than Chelski.

    I'm not serious but to a degree I almost want us to go out and spend a billion quid and then just by the best lawyers and tie the prem up for years.

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    this is what the football finance expert Kieran Maguire had to say on it. He is correct of course


    Kieran Maguire
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    Interesting that in the Everton points deduction verdict the Premier League said “A financial penalty for a club that enjoys the support of a wealthy owner is not a sufficient penalty” and that “the requirements of deterrence, vindication of compliant clubs, and the protection of the integrity of the sport demand a sporting sanction in the form of a points deduction’.

    Presumably the Chelsea fine (which ultimately is just a deduction from what billion dollar Clearlake will pay to billionaire Abramovich from the ?150m held back at the deal date) is then neither punishment, a deterrent or protecting the integrity of the sport?

    If I was an Everton or Forest fan would not be happy with this outcome.

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    If I was Everton the club - I'd be exploring legal options quite frankly.

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    https://x.com/slbsn/status/2033696324835586534

    This is a good write up about it.

    Most telling bit - the conclusions:

    None of the above is to say that the Chelsea sanction is straightforwardly wrong in every respect. Co-operation should be rewarded. The conduct of the previous ownership is a genuine distinction from cases where the incumbent club is responsible for the breach. The absence of a PSR consequence is a material fact. And Sanction Agreements (ie settlements) are different from disputed charges in front of an independent commission.

    But regulation draws its authority from consistency and credibility, not from the technical defensibility of individual decisions taken in isolation. That is why a Sanction Agreement needs ratification from an independent commission - in this case one including Robert Glancy KC who heard the Premier League’s views on co-operation first hand in the Forest case. When a league simultaneously argues before an independent commission that a 50 per cent co-operation discount is excessive, then later agrees to a sanction in which co-operation eliminates sporting consequences altogether before also halving the financial penalty, it is not applying a single coherent framework. It is applying different starting points to different clubs in different forums, and hoping the contrast is not noticed.

    It has been noticed.

    When Everton supporters ask why their club lost points, twice, for overspending while Chelsea has faced no sporting consequence for deliberate, concealed and systematic deception, the honest answer is that the rules, as applied, do not produce the same answer for everyone.

    And when Richard Masters mistakenly referred to “small clubs” in the DCMS hearing in early 2024, he was forced to clarify that “It would be incorrect to infer from this that there is any unfair treatment based on Club size, as suggested in the Committee’s media statement. Indeed, the point I made was the opposite, in that the Premier League Board applies the Rules consistently, irrespective of the Club in question.”

    Never has that question of consistency been more in focus.

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    Absolutely correct when he says a fine just is not enough

    it isnt

    They have owners who will just pay the fine with change they find down the back of the sofa

    They have taken a huge steaming dump on sporting integrity and the punishment needs to be a sporting one, not a financial one.

    Strip them of their sporting achievements from the time period of their misconduct and award to the next team.

    And I do understand this is still strictly not fair on other teams they competed against in the competition.

    And give them a full 2 season, that is 4 window FULL transfer ban. None of this buying players for your academy sh1te

    Probably should add no transfers allowed from clubs associated with the same ownership group for a further season into that too

    Then allow the other clubs to pursue any financial recompense they feel they deserve

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    Perhaps worst is the message this meagre punishment sends out to all rich clubs around the world:
    Cheat. Because its worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toptoon View Post
    Perhaps worst is the message this meagre punishment sends out to all rich clubs around the world:
    Cheat. Because its worth it.
    The argument was that BlueCo., the new owners, discovered this fraud when doing their DD when acquiring Chelsea. So, they flagged this to the Authorities immediately.

    This would be why they got a straight forward financial punishment.

    It stinks to all hell but there is also a serious an amount of 'big club bias' involved.

    Until NUFC breaks the resistance and plant the flag in the UCL ground the authorities will continue to side with the clubs who provide them with the largest Advert and Sponsorship returns. Also, the on field officials will side against the Toon at in every situation.

    Accept it, we are the underdog and a dog that will be kicked repeatedly until we show teeth and take an NUFC sized chunk out of the competition. #

    HOWAY THE LADS!

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