Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
Although he’s also claimed there have been very encouraging talks with the Iranians…talks which Tehran claims have never happened!
Was a time when if a POTUS had made such a claim about an extremist fundamentalist regime I’d have believed him, nowadays…nothing to choose between them.

Indeed, I know if one is cynical, you could take the view that all politicians lie and indeed on occasion that has been true, sometimes for good reason sometimes not. But recently the likes of Farage, Boris and Trump have mde it almost normal to actually spout continuous nonsense and lies and very obvious lies at that without seeming to worry.

Whats mor epuzzling, though perhaps i'm overestimating the intelligence of voters here, people don't seem to care, they even think its fine.

I mean when people talk about Reform and say "why not give some different party a chance", I think, what one that very obviously lies, has no credible policies and is funded by ex pat billionaires and hedge fund chappies? What a party that is led by an ex Conservative and has since welcomed a number of MP's who were Conservatives and in the last government? How is that someone else or different from other parties?