Getting shafted

[Returnofrros]

I take it that the 18/20 side over years haven't been compensated for loss of gate receipts.

[jdfc]

What about dans buying season tickets on basis of 19 home games

[islaydarkblue]

What about dans buying season tickets on basis of 19 home games

Fans are an irrelevance as far as the SPFL bosses are concerned. They are not bothered about football matches kicking off at stupid o’clock as long as it suits the tv companies.

[jdfc]

Fans are an irrelevance as far as the SPFL bosses are concerned. They are not bothered about football matches kicking off at stupid o’clock as long as it suits the tv companies.

But they may be entitled to a refund

[islaydarkblue]

But they may be entitled to a refund

If we only get 18 home games then you should ask the management of Dundee Football Club for a refund of one nineteenth of the cost of your season ticket.

[Dodbroon]

If we only get 18 home games then you should ask the management of Dundee Football Club for a refund of one nineteenth of the cost of your season ticket.

You are probably right but a bit hard on our club but then again you normally are. It would not be the club's fault if a home fixture was 'lost' and whilst technically correct that the club would be due to refund ST holders I would have been suggesting that supporters ask the SPFL for a refund rather than the club. If compensation is paid to the club for the lost fixture then what you say would be ok but I can't find anywhere anything to suggest such compensation is paid. Furthermore we as a club have benefited in the past, once, from the opposite side of the argument when we ended up with a 20:18 home away season and I can't recollect the club asking the ST holders to pay an extra 19th of the price that season. This is the first time we have lost out but it only balances out the earlier season. My first thoughts were that despite this evening out a previous 20:18 season ( 2014/15 when we ended up sixth and the extra home game did not and was designed not to give us any great advantage) this time losing a home game, if the SPFL cannot take the home fixture from a team where it is irrelevant, could cause us a great disadvantage if it were us. Your first thought is the club should be shelling out cash back to the support. We obviously have different priorities when it comes to DFC. It is a strange sort of supporter that looks to 'harm' our club financially rather than think first about the effect such a decision, if it comes to pass, would have on the field. But then again you do have 'history' in this regard.

[islaydarkblue]

You are probably right but a bit hard on our club but then again you normally are. It would not be the club's fault if a home fixture was 'lost' and whilst technically correct that the club would be due to refund ST holders I would have been suggesting that supporters ask the SPFL for a refund rather than the club. If compensation is paid to the club for the lost fixture then what you say would be ok but I can't find anywhere anything to suggest such compensation is paid. Furthermore we as a club have benefited in the past, once, from the opposite side of the argument when we ended up with a 20:18 home away season and I can't recollect the club asking the ST holders to pay an extra 19th of the price that season. This is the first time we have lost out but it only balances out the earlier season. My first thoughts were that despite this evening out a previous 20:18 season ( 2014/15 when we ended up sixth and the extra home game did not and was designed not to give us any great advantage) this time losing a home game, if the SPFL cannot take the home fixture from a team where it is irrelevant, could cause us a great disadvantage if it were us. Your first thought is the club should be shelling out cash back to the support. We obviously have different priorities when it comes to DFC. It is a strange sort of supporter that looks to 'harm' our club financially rather than think first about the effect such a decision, if it comes to pass, would have on the field. But then again you do have 'history' in this regard.

I believe in people being treated fairly are receiving what they paid for.
The Football Association of Wales have the right idea.
They have a 12 teams Premier League which has 22 games before their split with each team playing each other home and away only once.
The top 6 teams then play each other home and away with the bottom 6 teams doing likewise. This results in a 32 games Premier League season which ends in towards the middle of April.
In my opinion this is a good solution as it guarantees every football club 16 home games plus the players and supporters get a longer break during the close season to have a decent rest which is not happening at present in the SPFL Premier League and clubs involved in playoff matches.
When we defeated Kilmarnock in the playoff to gain promotion to the Premier League in May 2021 the Dundee FC players had a three weeks break before pre season training for the 2021-22 season began. No wonder professional footballers are suffering injuries during pre season training when they are not getting a decent break away from the rigours of pre season training.

[Dodbroon]

I believe in people being treated fairly are receiving what they paid for.
The Football Association of Wales have the right idea.
They have a 12 teams Premier League which has 22 games before their split with each team playing each other home and away only once.
The top 6 teams then play each other home and away with the bottom 6 teams doing likewise. This results in a 32 games Premier League season which ends in towards the middle of April.
In my opinion this is a good solution as it guarantees every football club 16 home games plus the players and supporters get a longer break during the close season to have a decent rest which is not happening at present in the SPFL Premier League and clubs involved in playoff matches.
When we defeated Kilmarnock in the playoff to gain promotion to the Premier League in May 2021 the Dundee FC players had a three weeks break before pre season training for the 2021-22 season began. No wonder professional footballers are suffering injuries during pre season training when they are not getting a decent break away from the rigours of pre season training.

I'm not really a fan of the current system either and agree that folk should get what they paid for but our ST holders as a group (not individually for obvious reasons) would be basically square, financially, if we lose a home game this season. Don't you agree that the ST holders, as a group, got more than they paid for in Season 2014/15? As I stated earlier I am far, far more concerned that losing a home fixture ends up costing us points and pitching us into the play off.

[islaydarkblue]

I'm not really a fan of the current system either and agree that folk should get what they paid for but our ST holders as a group (not individually for obvious reasons) would be basically square, financially, if we lose a home game this season. Don't you agree that the ST holders, as a group, got more than they paid for in Season 2014/15? As I stated earlier I am far, far more concerned that losing a home fixture ends up costing us points and pitching us into the play off.

I agree that the ST holders received a bonus home game in the 2014/15 season.
However the problem lies with the management of the SPFL trying to second guess which teams will be in the top 6 at the split each season. Sometimes playing at home is not the advantage it should be.
If we lose an early goal some of the Dundee FC supporters start moaning at the players instead of encouraging them to play better.
Dundee FC supporters moaning at their players gives the opposition players confidence to score more goals and win the game.
In my opinion all the Dundee FC supporters should encourage the Dundee FC players throughout the game no matter the score and remain in their seat until the final whistle which hundreds of them did not do at the home game against the Dabs on Sunday 15th March 2026.

[noahrab]

I believe in people being treated fairly are receiving what they paid for.
The Football Association of Wales have the right idea.
They have a 12 teams Premier League which has 22 games before their split with each team playing each other home and away only once.
The top 6 teams then play each other home and away with the bottom 6 teams doing likewise. This results in a 32 games Premier League season which ends in towards the middle of April.
In my opinion this is a good solution as it guarantees every football club 16 home games plus the players and supporters get a longer break during the close season to have a decent rest which is not happening at present in the SPFL Premier League and clubs involved in playoff matches.
When we defeated Kilmarnock in the playoff to gain promotion to the Premier League in May 2021 the Dundee FC players had a three weeks break before pre season training for the 2021-22 season began. No wonder professional footballers are suffering injuries during pre season training when they are not getting a decent break away from the rigours of pre season training.

You and your family were fairly treated when booted out of Gardyne and Downfield GC.