Ok, not football at all, but it matters, eventually.

[ozleeds]

....... agree to some extent on comments regarding todays journalism as many do like simple stories that help us make sense of the world in a way thats not to challenging.......
........ so to some degree taking that position prevents us having to be introspective and to interrogate the question and answers offered.

........ far to often when reading historical and political stuff i'm thinking of what ways am i part of this patriarchal system........ which clearly can be seen throughout the whole total thread postings on here as it weaves along denoting systems of society or government always controlled by men.

......... its certainly not by chance through global history social systems that men seem to have had a privileged position in society is it.

........ most sociological theories offered with any clout always describe values and behaviour patterns that lets face it are predominantly offered after being shaped by men........ which only encourage a privileged position for men.

such predominance of men in positions of power throughout history is a complex and systemic phenomenon possibly due to a combination of historical biological and social factors that became attached over thousands of years of physical labour, property control to create settled life which restricted womens freedom and economic roles to ensure lineage...... sadly still doctrine of several countries today regarding cultural and social conditioning.

from my days of serious political studies and a hands on vocal activist many moons ago not much has changed....... but i have a voice at least..... on here anyway.

MOT

MRS O modern journos.
Example al jazeeda however they spell it a Muslim channel
Dailly gazza BS israel genocide in 2 and half years in a war they didn't start. Iran 35000 killed in 2 weeks and they do not mention a thing and hardly broadcast anything of what's happening. Yesterday I watched a little and they were showcasing Ukraine and the sad state of affair's there. They only show what they want you to see full stop. Media is a corrupted trash organisation.

[MrsORichSenior_]

Oz and Spaldy....... good to see your still up and at it on here offering interesting insights.......

the use of spin is prevalent in modern journalism ........ mainly for click bait for sure.

the media demand emotionally charged headlines pushing journalists to focus on framing rather than just reporting today...... and most politicians today now manage their narrative through spin doctors who provide biased interpretations of events to journalists.

an increase also today of politicians directly publishing their own narrative which bypasses traditional media and their owners who once only pushed their own political allegiance.....
this is basically just publishing propaganda wrapped up as spin essentially in my eyes.

....... they now require reporting today as 'forward spin' which only concentrates on interpretation rather than just reporting the known current facts........ days of objective reporting are long gone for all to see, all just spin now....... which is not a healthy concept one should concede to imo........

https://nationalpress.org/topic/21-t...u-should-know/

[WTF11]

So the orange chimp in the White House has had its nose put out of joint as a result of the European powers he has been all too eager to criticise and berate not joining in the illegal "war" the US and Israel have waged against Iran. He accuses those who he failed to consult (and moreover accused of freeloadIng on US involvement in NATO), after mounting a military campaign against Iran, of failing to support such illegal military action.

Hegseth, that hugely accomplished ex-news anchor turned military expert, steps up to the podium and layers fresh accusations and insults on the ONLY group of nations capable of helping the US in ANY military action ANYWHERE in the globe, no-one else will (or can). The US CANNOT achieve anything on the global stage (short of a nuclear strike), without NATO partners. The Europeans and Canadians know that, perhaps someone should whisper in the ear of that orange blimp the truth of the matter.

The blimp and his entire entourage are a disgrace to the flag of the United States of America. Their time in office will be a stain on the memory of a nation which for nearly 250 years has been a byword for freedom, democracy and a shining beacons for the oppressed and discriminated. Shame on them all.

Btw, if I was King Charles, I'd tell the orange comb-over to shove his White House ballroom where the sun don't shine (but of course he will be too diplomatic to say what he really thinks)

[WTF11]

Oh and as a small aside relating to football....The World Cup.....OMG.... So Scots fans are.faced.with over $100 for train travel from the closest city to their first game (Haiti or Some other renowned team), or over $150 to park if travelling by car. And let's not forget prices for the final are up in the five-figure bracket. Land of the free huh?

[Oranje White]

@ WTF....🥱 yawn...🥱 ...zzzzz...🥱 your TDS is so boring.

[spaldy]

Did I miss something? So Trump controls the World Cup? Aren?t some of the games played in Canada and Mexico. Do the presidents of those countries control it as well?

I believe that most of the games are being played in democrat controlled cities where Trump has zero say on anything.

It?s a unique stretch to blame the corruption and profiteering of fifa on Trump

[WTF11]

Did I miss something? So Trump controls the World Cup? Aren?t some of the games played in Canada and Mexico. Do the presidents of those countries control it as well?

I believe that most of the games are being played in democrat controlled cities where Trump has zero say on anything.

It?s a unique stretch to blame the corruption and profiteering of fifa on Trump

I suspect you know that the World Cup reference was the "minor player" in my posts.

As it is, Scotlands game against Haiti is in Foxborough MA. so quite clearly in the US! It's fair to say that Foxborough tends to vote strongly Democrat, but is run by a non-partisan independent "council", and as far as I know (I could be wrong) they are NOT responsible for the specification of travel/parking arrangements, which are the responsibility of FIFA’s Competition Management Division which leads operational planning, supported by local entities ( to manage (but not SPECIFY), site-specific logistics.

Clearly my main target in post #943 was the disgraceful behaviour of the blimp and his entourage regarding threats to NATO, and the "punishments" being considered relating to NATO ALLIES not "being there" in a conflict for which they were not responsible, not consulted, and only called upon when it dawned on the great orange one that the US armed forces aren't so all powerful after all, and the possible consequences of those punishments, especially as they apply t the Falkland Islands where over 220 British service personnel were killed in ejecting an illegal Argentinian invasion some 45 years ago.

Consequences like this;

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...555d75a4&ei=14

[WTF11]

Just a small point (depends on what you consider "small" I guess), relating to the US preoccupation with the cost of a gallon of gas (petrol for us). In the US the average is a few cents over $4.00. In the UK the average is a few cents under $9.50! The rest of Europe is ariund the same.

The economically illiterate clown in the White House is ruining the lives of millions, but he could care less.

[spaldy]

I still have no clue what Trump has to do with any of your points on the world cup

[Oranje White]

@WTF "....could care less" ????? Another fool who gets it wrong. Your TDS is so amusing. Working yourself into a rage because the BBC told you to! LOL