Most respected

[jdfc]

It’s absolutely true, I witnessed this while on my way to the car after the game, they were waiting on the grass across from the away end, the stewards were under extreme danger trying to stop them getting to livi fans , it was shocking to watch felt I was back in the 1970s , so they got a one match ban, but looks like they didn’t learn, I didn’t see but heard they were at it again fighting the United Ultras on the hilltown after the 2 all derby , question is yes there was a complete lack of atmosphere yesterday, but how many chances is Nelms meant to give those young troublemakers?

Rightly or wrongly they were responding to the Livi fans attacking them through there early on this season, the carry on after the 2-2 derby was instigated by Utd ultras who attacked a Dundee pub only to get there comeuppance and not from Dundee ultras

I travel all over and have seen ultras from other teams commit a lot more trouble than our lot, we?re not Celtic or rangers and we?re not talking green brigade or union bear levels, as a club we can?t afford to be putting carpet bans over our supporters, the most respected has had it in for them from day one but does F all when opposing fans rave our ground with vandalised toilets and broken seats

[Returnofrros]

Rightly or wrongly they were responding to the Livi fans attacking them through there early on this season, the carry on after the 2-2 derby was instigated by Utd ultras who attacked a Dundee pub only to get there comeuppance and not from Dundee ultras

I travel all over and have seen ultras from other teams commit a lot more trouble than our lot, we?re not Celtic or rangers and we?re not talking green brigade or union bear levels, as a club we can?t afford to be putting carpet bans over our supporters, the most respected has had it in for them from day one but does F all when opposing fans rave our ground with vandalised toilets and broken seats

100%

I actually wouldn't be surprised if some of them shift their club.

I've seen violence at st m every time I've been thru, Motherwell, Killie, FFS Alloa, Morton, livvy, Dunfermline, Raith, Hibs, hearts.....to name a few.

Do these clubs ban their own.....do they ****.

Utd fans been running amok all season and as you say picked on wrong pub.

[BCram]

Thanks for the explanations. Look at similar troubles with Bears and Green Brigade. Is there any leadership of our Ultras? I was hoping that we might get a large turnout for the Livi game, try to boost numbers as the first opportunity to secure our position in league.

[Returnofrros]

Thanks for the explanations. Look at similar troubles with Bears and Green Brigade. Is there any leadership of our Ultras? I was hoping that we might get a large turnout for the Livi game, try to boost numbers as the first opportunity to secure our position in league.

B cram those are left and right wing political organisations as much as football fans.

Compare with well st m pars st j and even utd who have embraced the culture.......we have a dinosaur 🦕 banning AHH ****.

[eric_sinclair]

Why doesn't he ban both old firm fans as well then?
Interrupting the games with pyros and tennis balls.
Young team in a few scraps is happening nationally why the **** are we banning fans for things outside the ground?
Surely old bills job to arrest,then they might at least have a reason to ban.
Get them back pronto

[Returnofrros]

Why doesn't he ban both old firm fans as well then?
Interrupting the games with pyros and tennis balls.
Young team in a few scraps is happening nationally why the **** are we banning fans for things outside the ground?
Surely old bills job to arrest,then they might at least have a reason to ban.
Get them back pronto

It's a farce

[Returnofrros]

Why doesn't he ban both old firm fans as well then?
Interrupting the games with pyros and tennis balls.
Young team in a few scraps is happening nationally why the **** are we banning fans for things outside the ground?
Surely old bills job to arrest,then they might at least have a reason to ban.
Get them back pronto

He wud happily have everyone turn up in jacket, bonnet and obligatory Dee tie, sit there say **** all, talk about the guid auld days at HT then **** off home.

Dinosaur 🦕

[BCram]

Why doesn't he ban both old firm fans as well then?
Interrupting the games with pyros and tennis balls.
Young team in a few scraps is happening nationally why the **** are we banning fans for things outside the ground?
Surely old bills job to arrest,then they might at least have a reason to ban.
Get them back pronto

Seems like a reasonable approach. Punish them for causing disturbances in the ground but leave police to deal with offensive behaviour outside the ground.
Surprised at the way Rangers fans have been treated by SFA. Seemed to me that the Celtic fans were wrong to invade the pitch. Should have been some sanction applied to them, imo.

[Returnofrros]

And according to Pravda and the Rev dab ultras brand new, despite attacking away fans and a Dundee pub....self harm....cudnt make it up

[BCram]

And according to Pravda and the Rev dab ultras brand new, despite attacking away fans and a Dundee pub....self harm....cudnt make it up

I think we need to find a way to work with our Ultras. Banning just harms our club, working with them might actually help society by talking to them and getting them involved as positive role models of how a supporter should behave.
There's a few grumpier fans in Bobby Cox and Mainer who could do with a refresher course in supporting our team. Why not invite them into both stands to help gee up older supporters?