Polanski

[kettering_baggie]

Ultimately, Brexit will be seen to be very advantageous to GB, providing that some moron like Starmer doesn’t backtrack on it. Our Service industries are thriving and this would not be possible if we were still being dictated to by Brussels. The biggest bonus for me regarding Brexit is to be free of the EU straight jacket and, of course, many will disagree with me but that is the benefit of having free speech; although even that is being slowly chipped away at!

The Green Party are OK’ish at a local level, particularly when it comes to litter picking! That’s it for them, Polanski, or whatever his real name is, is a dangerous idiot.

[baggieal]

What exactly is he doing Al? Other than threatening people to vote reform?

People will vote for this sort of thing. But people are largely a bit thick to be honest. Talking about problems and criticising others doesnt mean they have the solution; just like Brexit.

Was it not mainly the old folk who swayed the Brexit vote and the same with many on these Palestinian marches - old folk with nothing better to do with their pink hair and nose piercings! No thought for the younger generation. Even that complete w anker Blair not content in introducing uni fees and wrecking state grammar schools - the t wat is now garbling about ditching the state pension. He should shut the **** up at his age and wealth!

I have never voted but God - I know some powerful business leaders who are right leaning rather than left. They are certainly far from thick. Many would vote for whoever if it meant property prices in a nice town were not affected and girls were safe. Fact of life like Crowborough!

Green want to welcome them they can have them and surely this would be fair!

Even those who have not a bad word to say without any political alliance like my wife - will admit cities are becoming unrecognisable - girls are not safe and crime is getting worse. I have always disliked John Terry but he?s right - those entering should receive nothing!

[baggieal]

Ultimately, Brexit will be seen to be very advantageous to GB, providing that some moron like Starmer doesn’t backtrack on it. Our Service industries are thriving and this would not be possible if we were still being dictated to by Brussels. The biggest bonus for me regarding Brexit is to be free of the EU straight jacket and, of course, many will disagree with me but that is the benefit of having free speech; although even that is being slowly chipped away at!

The Green Party are OK’ish at a local level, particularly when it comes to litter picking! That’s it for them, Polanski, or whatever his real name is, is a dangerous idiot.

Trade from the UK to the EU is being hampered by import duties and customs delays. Crazy when goods can be scrutinised more than people entering! We will never be free until many rules and processes including the ECHR are updated so lawyers are not getting richer by the minute.

Annoyed me when you hear comments only thick people voted for Brexit. It was the older vote that swayed it who had little thought for the younger generation. Even now look at these pro Palestinian marches with all these oldies who need to get a life as they will be dead soon. Even that nut job Blair is now rattling on about abolishing state pensions with a reform which in affect will mean more years of work. The high taxation in this country is shocking and getting worse under Starmer and those idiots. Don?t work and have kids you are rewarded. In Spain you get almost zero if you do not pay into the system. Many millions though going to Somalia and Ukraine from Starmer.

Yes Starmer will backtrack but it won?t be to our benefit. The French must be laughing their socks off at the new deal of many millions going their way. Those boats are still coming fast!

[Omegstrat6]

Knew I should have had my tin hat on when I posted about Polanski😀 I still stick by what I said though.

My point wasn't about what people feel about the attacker, and I don't care about what happens to him anymore than anyone else given what he has done. My point was about the role of the Police and it is their job, wherever possible, to detain such individuals so that they can be dealt with by the Justice system to determine their fate. And, yes, I am fully aware of how woefully poor that that system can be and how excessively lenient it can be too. I am also fully aware that there are circumstances when the Police have every right to use lethal force. I am just saying that if it is deemed acceptable for Police officers to kick people in the head when they have them on the ground without just cause and regardless of their crimes or the temptation to do so, then this is a very slippery slope to go down. I don't care about what happens to the attacker after he has committed such heinous acts but I do care about the principle.

Whilst I certainly believe that you cannot tar every illegal immigrant or asylum seeker with the same brush, I think it is disingenuous not to accept that elements from these communities pose a genuine threat and that the vetting of them should be far stronger before any are allowed to settle here.

On the subject of immigrants though, was it not an Iranian bystander who helped save the life of one of the Jewish victims of this particular attack? As he said of his actions, this wasn't about helping because the victim was Jewish or not, it was about helping a fellow human being. Credit to Ashkan Asadian.

[baggiematt]

Trade from the UK to the EU is being hampered by import duties and customs delays. Crazy when goods can be scrutinised more than people entering! We will never be free until many rules and processes including the ECHR are updated so lawyers are not getting richer by the minute.

Annoyed me when you hear comments only thick people voted for Brexit. It was the older vote that swayed it who had little thought for the younger generation. Even now look at these pro Palestinian marches with all these oldies who need to get a life as they will be dead soon. Even that nut job Blair is now rattling on about abolishing state pensions with a reform which in affect will mean more years of work. The high taxation in this country is shocking and getting worse under Starmer and those idiots. Don?t work and have kids you are rewarded. In Spain you get almost zero if you do not pay into the system. Many millions though going to Somalia and Ukraine from Starmer.

Yes Starmer will backtrack but it won?t be to our benefit. The French must be laughing their socks off at the new deal of many millions going their way. Those boats are still coming fast!

We are hundreds of billions worse off due to brexit and got nothing for it. We still have illegal migration. The only thing we do have is a loss of the ability to move to a different European country, which looks quite appealing now.

The man who sold it to the country should be cast out, but instead people who were duped by this man before will be duped by him again. They are the thick people, not those who voted for Brexit. Fool me once and all that…

If a man in a company puts forward a case to change business strategy and it fails, they dont tend to get promoted, they get sacked!

We need to start appointing people because of what they have done for the country and their track record, not the spin they sell.

Not Rupert Lowe who bankrupted Southampton and has multiple harassment cases against women but is now talking about how he would improve the UK economy and stop women getting harassed on the streets! You almost couldnt make it up!

[baggieal]

Knew I should have had my tin hat on when I posted about Polanski😀 I still stick by what I said though.

My point wasn't about what people feel about the attacker, and I don't care about what happens to him anymore than anyone else given what he has done. My point was about the role of the Police and it is their job, wherever possible, to detain such individuals so that they can be dealt with by the Justice system to determine their fate. And, yes, I am fully aware of how woefully poor that that system can be and how excessively lenient it can be too. I am also fully aware that there are circumstances when the Police have every right to use lethal force. I am just saying that if it is deemed acceptable for Police officers to kick people in the head when they have them on the ground without just cause and regardless of their crimes or the temptation to do so, then this is a very slippery slope to go down. I don't care about what happens to the attacker after he has committed such heinous acts but I do care about the principle.

Whilst I certainly believe that you cannot tar every illegal immigrant or asylum seeker with the same brush, I think it is disingenuous not to accept that elements from these communities pose a genuine threat and that the vetting of them should be far stronger before any are allowed to settle here.

On the subject of immigrants though, was it not an Iranian bystander who helped save the life of one of the Jewish victims of this particular attack? As he said of his actions, this wasn't about helping because the victim was Jewish or not, it was about helping a fellow human being. Credit to Ashkan Asadian.

Morning Omeg. Can Ashkan play in the striker position?

Good to have different views and banter. Bet you can?t wait where you live to stuff Norwich next season 😭😭

[Omegstrat6]

We are hundreds of billions worse off due to brexit and got nothing for it. We still have illegal migration. The only thing we do have is a loss of the ability to move to a different European country, which looks quite appealing now.

The man who sold it to the country should be cast out, but instead people who were duped by this man before will be duped by him again. They are the thick people, not those who voted for Brexit. Fool me once and all that…

If a man in a company puts forward a case to change business strategy and it fails, they dont tend to get promoted, they get sacked!

We need to start appointing people because of what they have done for the country and their track record, not the spin they sell.

Not Rupert Lowe who bankrupted Southampton and has multiple harassment cases against women but is now talking about how he would improve the UK economy and stop women getting harassed on the streets! You almost couldnt make it up!

I live in Rupert Lowe's constituency and my opinion of him is that he is a complete c u nt but he does still sadly attract support of the gullible/ ignorant or bigoted. The area has both high levels of poverty and immigration however so it's not hard to see how people like him can get a foothold when they spin promises about how they can make things so much better and use concerns over immigration as a scapegoat. Nothing new there then in the history of populist movements.

Neither Farage, with his "ordinary chap down the pub" schtick and acceptance of some £5 million in crypto donations from one billionaire alone, nor multi-millionaire Lowe really give a toss about "ordinary working people". And they are certainly not the answer to the country's problems. Reform can't run the council seats they won so imagine them in government.

The myriad of problems that this country faces are long standing and did not happen over night and both previous Labour and Conservative governments are responsible for the mess we are in now. The biggest issues are, firstly, that there are no easy answers/ quick fixes and the second is that we seem to have a dearth of politicians (of any party) with the competence to begin to fix things. I also think that John Major has a point when he talks about the generational impact of social media on politics whereby criticisms are magnified daily while alternative solutions are rarely put forward and the expectations are always for immediate fixes with little patience for the reality of timelines.

As for Brexit, whilst I certainly understood the frustrations over the EU, I personally always thought that it would have been better to remain and fight for changes from within rather than to leave. For me, at the time, there were far too many questions left unanswered in the public debates which, too frequently, involved simple gainsaying or naysaying. The worst thing was after the referendum when the more prickly questions over Brexit began to be more widely raised. The Brexiters were so concerned that another referendum might now overturn the Leave vote that they labelled it "undemocratic". Surely, when new information comes to light, people should be allowed to reconsider their previous decision? Especially in the case of such a momentous decision with all the potential consequences that it entailed for the country.

[Omegstrat6]

Morning Omeg. Can Ashkan play in the striker position?

Good to have different views and banter. Bet you can?t wait where you live to stuff Norwich next season 😭😭

Hi Al, hope you are good. Yep, after that 5-0 stuffing they gave us the team owe us all some payback!

I liked Morrison's interview on the official website btw and he clearly acknowledges that there is a lot of work to do over the summer so it will be very interesting to see what happens and who we are able to recruit. The problem, as mentioned on another thread, is that we now face months of uncertainty , rumours and speculation before we find out anything concrete.

[soulman101]

Anyone seen this Green on question Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8PNC64TyK8

[baggieal]

Anyone seen this Green on question Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8PNC64TyK8

I can?t stand watching them Lloyd. Complete nut jobs like most who go on these pro Palestinian marches. They need to get a life.

People are selfish as they say they don?t have a view on refugees but place them in their towns or next door to their properties and they are kicking off. In my town which is beautiful and with a left leaning council most commented on a thread saying they didn?t like Reform but 100% they were against illegals coming into the town. That really makes sense. Ask those folk in Crowborough whether they would vote Green now 😂😂😂

Classic from Reform - Green want to welcome refugees so they can be sent to Green constituencies. Quite right too! You can?t have it both ways, A lot are running scared now 😂