The Official Everton v West Ham United Match Thread

[Whiskyman]

But don't you think, Mike, that if we eliminated lumping, which most I'm sure would see as desirable, we would need a forward, or forwards, suited to a more on the ground based game.

My point being that with Carroll or Cole as the focus there is little point in having the more skilful, pacy, midfielders you've identified.

[dagenhamJohn]

why not the pacey midfielders with Carroll and Cole?

we can always compromise our tactics, everyone says we are a 1 trick pony so why not a stable!

[mikeveep]

But don't you think, Mike, that if we eliminated lumping, which most I'm sure would see as desirable, we would need a forward, or forwards, suited to a more on the ground based game.

My point being that with Carroll or Cole as the focus there is little point in having the more skilful, pacy, midfielders you've identified.

The Forwards would be improved by having much more room,their usual markers having to meet the attacking midfielders. Jarvis and Downing receiving the ball further upfield would have more options and get to the by-line on a regular basis

Erikson Sp*rs paid Ai11m

Cabaya.Newcastle paidAi4/5m

Cazola. Arsenal paid Ai15m.

Modrich? Cant afford that one I'm afraid.

[Tone_Loc]

[quote="mikeveep"


This is not so.

The whole back unit including Noble is in place for any system. The wide midfielders will be Ok in a less demanding defensive role, as will the striker.

All that's necessary to convert to a more balanced team is the purchase of two or three all round central midfielders, who can bring the ball out of defence with a bit of pace and pass to/interpass with the attack.

No great re-structuring necessary.[/quote]
The "attack" which consists of our club's record signing who does most of his best work air-borne

[dagenhamJohn]

does most of his best work air-borne,

i can live with that 1!

[mikeveep]

The crosses would continue Tone, and would be more accurate, and hopefully more varied, as the wide players would probably receive the ball already in an attacking area and not along their own 12 yard line,so wouldnt have to carry the ball 60 yards before releasing it.

Carroll and Cole would be able to put away the type of cut back chance that Lukaku executed yesterday. They havent been wasting too many chances, there just aint been too many.

[palerider]

You don't need to spend a fortune to change your style. But you need a manager that will encourage it and a good scouting system.

I know the answer to the first part and I suspect it's the same for the second.

[Dailly___7]

Thought we looked OK and never really looked like we'd concede or score a goal other than maybe a 10 minute spell for us and for them. No disgrace losing 1-0 at Everton, though it was frustrating that we came close to getting what would have been a very good point.

Two things:

The Ref

Completely bottled sending off Barry in the first half. Our chances of taking at least a point would have increased massively playing most of the game against 10 men. The booking for Tomkins not long after was an even more ridiculous decision. If players are getting booked for making superbly timed tackles now, then the game has well and truly gone

And the subs

Wasn't best pleased with Allardyce throwing on a defender at 0-0. Yes, a draw would have been a good result, but I felt that substitution showed a complete lack of ambition. As for the decision to take off Carlty within the first half an hour, I thought that was completely out of order. I was quite happy when I heard Carlty was starting a