Allardyce an objective viewpoint

[Taansend]

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[IronworksFC]

I dont think its so much the OPS point of view, although he doesnt agree with it, its more the past and the way in which he has tried to put them across. Dont just look at this thread look at others.

This one isnt so bad, but in past posts the OP has come across as condescending which in itself says to a degree that his own opinion is right.
It has stuck.

There are optimists pessimists and realists, all are right at some time.

Agree, its not what ammeread said but they way that he said it, plus previous form has gone against him.

Don't go to games, but from what I can gather the fans haven't really turned on BFS. Granted they have never got b

[ammeread]

I dont think its so much the OPS point of view, although he doesnt agree with it, its more the past and the way in which he has tried to put them across. Dont just look at this thread look at others.

This one isnt so bad, but in past posts the OP has come across as condescending which in itself says to a degree that his own opinion is right.
It has stuck.

There are optimists pessimists and realists, all are right at some time.

Agree, its not what ammeread said but they way that he said it, plus previous form has gone against him.

Don't go to games, but from what I can gather the fans haven't re

[IronworksFC]

I dont think its so much the OPS point of view, although he doesnt agree with it, its more the past and the way in which he has tried to put them across. Dont just look at this thread look at others.

This one isnt so bad, but in past posts the OP has come across as condescending which in itself says to a degree that his own opinion is right.
It has stuck.

There are optimists pessimists and realists, all are right at some time.

Agree, its not what ammeread said but they way that he said it, plus previous form has gone against him.

Don't go to games,

[ammeread]

@ ironworks let me get this right this is not a piece of literary composition it is a message board so something that looks arrogant could be just venting of emotion or something that looks serious could be tongue in cheek. Your comments about me are so way off the mark that point is proven.

So once again people can disagree with me. But people can also piss me off when they piss me off I will let them know they piss me off.

Do you understand the concept here?

Different opinion is fine. Stupid argument such as "Saturdays half time team talk wasn't good enough" is not fine it pisses me off. So I will let you all know it pisses me off.

So as I said you cannot tell someones tone over the internet its clearly not that definite

[frogiron]

[quote="ammeread"]Sam Allardyce the most hated man in East London some of it he's brought upon himself admittedly, some of it I believe is unwarranted.

Allardyce was brought to this club during a period of turmoil some of the worst times in our clubs history . He was asked to steady the ship. He steadied the ship. He was asked to get us promoted within two seasons . He got us promoted in one. He was asked to keep us up. He kept us up. He was asked to keep us up again he kept us up again.

He has done everything he was employed to do. He has done everything the board asked of him. Yes he has upset people along the way.He's made stupid and disrespectful comments in some people's eyes .He has played mainly boring football,he plays the percentages far too much and he's generally void of a plan B.

On the other hand he has been largely forced into some decisions by injur

[Eggerts_Ears]

Let's take a look at this "tone" argument:

"Get a clue will ya!!" - Whilst in the same post arguing about our cup final defeat to Liverpool...in 2005 ffs.

"Hello bandwagon jumper"

"Further If you think that Allardyce is to blame for the poor marking of the goals today then you are a prize clown. If you haven't seen them then I suggest you keep quiet until you do"



Not entirely how anybody could misunderstand your tone there ginger b0llocks. - view external link

[ammeread]

@ EE That's right anyone who thinks allardyce is to blame for the poor marking on the palace goals and anyone who thinks the manager is to blame every time a team loses need stop get a clue and is a prize clown. That's my opinion . If you don't think either of these things then why are you so worried? If you do then you are a prize clown and need to get a clue. I can't make it more simple than that as that is what I think.

Also after I was called allardyce junior is when I said bandwagon jumper.

One rule for one and one for another it appears.

[EastEastEastLondon]

I dont think its so much the OPS point of view, although he doesnt agree with it, its more the past and the way in which he has tried to put them across. Dont just look at this thread look at others.

This one isnt so bad, but in past posts the OP has come across as condescending which in itself says to a degree that his own opinion is right.
It has stuck.

There are optimists pessimists and realists, all are right at some time.

Agree, its not what ammeread said but they way that he said it, plus previous form has gone against him.

Don't go to games, but from what I can gather the fans haven't really turned on BFS. Granted they have never got behind him on mass (and nor should they in my opinion) but has they been much Sam out stuff.

Any anti Sam fan really wants to be proved wrong I guess. Perhaps I shouldn't speak for others (s

[ammeread]

I dont think its so much the OPS point of view, although he doesnt agree with it, its more the past and the way in which he has tried to put them across. Dont just look at this thread look at others.

This one isnt so bad, but in past posts the OP has come across as condescending which in itself says to a degree that his own opinion is right.
It has stuck.

There are optimists pessimists and realists, all are right at some time.

Agree, its not what ammeread said but they way that he said it, plus previous form has gone against him.

Don't go to games, but from what I can gather the fans haven't really turned on BFS. Granted they have never got behind him on mass (and nor should they in my opinion) but has they been much Sam out stuff.

Any anti Sam fan really wants to be prove