Originally Posted by
Getintaethem
The civil war happened in Syria because of the lack of human rights not because a western democracy was thrust upon it. Remember the Spring uprising of people fighting against their dictators. That sort of thing has not happened in proper democracies for a while so I guess you can measure success by the lack of civil wars in comparison to places (i.e. dictatorships) that have had them and still do.
North Korea is not a special case. In fact it is so low down the dictatorship league in terms of killing its own citizens and human rights that it will probably be relegated this season. You only think it is really bad (in comparison to the other despots around the world) because of the publicity it gets being in between the Western democracies and the old communist block.
But if you want to compare roaring success of democracy - look no further than the economies of South and North Korea or their human rights records.
How do you measure success? There are several variables. I guess one fundamental measure of success that we would both agree on is how many of your own citizens are killed by the Government (whether democratic or dictatorship). Dictatorships. Germany - Hilter - killed a mere 17 million (although he needed to invade a few other countries to get that number up - a bit of a cheat), Stalin beat him in the killing of innocents by a whopping 6 million. But in first place and the Barclays Despot of the Century was Mao who beat both put together and then doubled it to almost 80 million. That's not to mention Japan, Turkey, Cambodia, Ethiopia and Nigeria who were the minnows of the league only killing between 1 and 5 million of their own people. Amateurs.
With the rise of the UN and Nato mass killings of citizens has gone out of fashion with dictators, as annoyingly they seem to get deposed, so they have fallen back on the lesser crime of human rights infringements.
Well the top spots for human rights infringements go to the dictators as well. Zimbabwe, Sudan, North Korea, Burma, Saudi Arabia, China, Iran, Eritrea and the list goes on and on and on.
The countries with the best human rights records are not dictatorships - they are democracies. Countries like New Zealand, Iceland, Denmark, Finland, Luxembourg and Canada.
So democracy can be seen as a success purely cos we don't kill our own citizens or suffer from the human rights issues that happen with dictatorships. A rip roaring success if there ever was one.
But wait, all the evidence that is needed that democracy does not work is Trump (Monster) that stops entry to his country to protect his own citizens (i.e. he wants to protect the human rights of his own people), for 90 days until they can put better controls in place, from countries that already had visa restrictions forced on them by Obama (Saint), where there are active terrorist training grounds whose terrorist groups have said they want to export those terrorists to kill Americans (in an act that is supported by the majority of the American people) and when those terrorist groups have already successfully killed citizens of European countries.
But us Brits would not support such a monster - we even have a petition signed by lots of people that say we dont' want him to visit. Except the majority of people in the UK support him coming. Damned democracy.
Hall Of Fame
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote