sign the petition

[gm_gm]

Going by Kerr's logic then, and looking at the list of country's in the way of highest to lowest corporation tax, Hungary should be the most succesful country in Europe, and must be absolutely full of billionaires, and all the people live fantastic lives and want for nothing......

Give me a break Kerr, continue with your waffle, you're alright so stuff everyone else eh...

If all the economies were the same in economic demographics, workforce, politically aligned and infrastructure you would have an excellent point.

[ragingpup]

You don't seem to have any qualms about having the same argument with gf over and over again.

I'll challenge racial/religious stereotyping and prejudice every time I see it. An economic argument is not the same, and we can agree to disagree. I don't think we should agree to disagree with people who hold views that stereotype or generalise people as Fire and others frequently do. They're welcome to their views but not on my team's/town's footy message board.

[Lolmorgan]

Footy message board correct.By the way have you signed the petition are is it platform for you to show how clever you are in all things.O/P,just sign the petition & let it drop.

[ragingpup]

As for the current strategy in the UK not working in practice - what evidence do you have that it doesn't? You can't say with any certainty where the country would be had it adopted a high corporate tax strategy in, say 2010. For the reasons I have set out - and to which you have provided no counter argument at all - there is every reason to believe that we would be in a far worse position than we are now.

By the same token, what evidence can you provide that we would not be far better off had we not cut corporation tax rates?

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Just loving the ignore function

Best drivel eliminator ever

[millmoormagic]

Just loving the ignore function

Best drivel eliminator ever

Surprised you can read yer own.....then again, given what you just wrote, how would you know when Kerr and Howdy have posted in that case???

[animallittle3]

I have never mentioned a trickle down effect, but it is obvious and self evident that an active economy with high levels of employment creates wealth for all and both reduces the demands on public spending and generates tax revenues to fund the same. If you don't believe me, look at the plight of the people of Venezuela, who are the latest to 'benefit' from the Socialist dream.

Really , you think everyone who works creates wealth ?

So going by that logic the NHS would be performing at a standard we would all happily accept .

I'm currently watching a programme on tv and an 86 year old women fell and it's taken an ambulance 6 hours to reach her .

Why did Northamptonshire council totally run out of money to meet their obligations ? and why are the majority of councils also struggling to run services effectively in these barmy full employment times ?


Yeh really reducing the demands on the public sector , although Kennsington council are showing a way forward even if a significant number of residents do burn to death in their own homes .

You not familar with in work poverty , the use of foodbanks ?

Bit complex for you is it kerr ?

I spent 8 hours last week helping out at our local foodbank , my company is spending this financial year raising funds for them and we are all involved in fund raising activities and giving up our time .

50% of the users of this service are working , don't take my word for it though the guy who runs it told me .


I'll give you corporation tax alright .........





https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a6873151.html

[animallittle3]

Want another ?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20729430

[animallittle3]

Tell you what , knock yourself out


http://www.murrayandlamb.co.uk/news/...rst-offenders/


So the world of business that you appear to hold with such high esteem seems to be placing the burden on those who just about get by if they use a foodbank .

In work creates wealth and less reliant on public services ?

I wish it did for millions of people .

[KerrAvon]

Same old argument again Kerr.....i'll ask again,.......

"Presumably you'd accept that even if the rates were higher, they'd still be lower than ALL our competitors, therefore making it the better option nonetheless.....yes or no".

I have answered you twice already on this but perhaps I need to make it more explicit for you.

The level of taxation is one of a number of factors that a company will take into account when deciding where to operate, invest, pay tax and employ people. Amongst others will be labour costs, energy costs,rent/land costs and regulatory costs.

As raging graciously acknowledges transport costs are a particular feature of the UK economy.

Last Saturday I took my car to France by Eurotunnel. Checking in, waiting, the journey and embarking took about two hours. The fare was £90 or so. On Monday morning, I woke in Sarreguemines, France and went for a walk which took me across a bridge over the River Blies into Germany. The border is invisible - not even a welcome to Germany sign - with traffic flowing quickly and cost free across it. So that means that a company producing widgets in the West Midlands competing with a German company to supply a company in,say, Northern France is at an immediate and huge cost disadvantage.

If you don't believe me, consider this: how has manufacturing in the UK fared in the last half century or so? I presume your reflexive response will be to mention Margaret Thatcher, but the reality is different.

Competitive tax rates are one way of addressing the competitive inequality that I have described above. Your argument would hold water provided that every other factor were equal, but they aren't and your argument is flawed in consequence.

If you still choose to believe that increased costs to business have no consequences, take a look at the 70s and the widespread destruction of jobs that flowed from the uncontrolled wage inflation of the decade.

Bulgaria is still living with a hangover from 40 years of Socialist economic policies, but it certainly has the capacity to grow it's economy with time.