Swansea City Post Match Thoughts

[Grumpy King of the West]

Left it till now so I could read through the comments and see who was wise enough to mention our injury list as part of our display today.

So many players out of a squad our size is always going to cause a problem. I think Paul set the side up not to lose yesterday and in his place I would have done the same thing.

In the end I think we were a little unlucky not to get a point.

UTM!

When you say "a squad our size" BigLad, I was under the impression every club had exactly the same squad size, I.e. 25 players. Or have I misunderstood that?

How does it work with U23 squads, etc? Can youth players be drafted in, in addition to the 25 man squad?

[gm_gm]

Ok . So why did we have 7 subs today and they had 9? And I would like to bet that the majority of champ teams had 9 subs today if not all. Maybe it is not Warnes fault but how can you explain statistics like that. Persuade me. Is it just bad luck or what? who or what is to blame?

I wunt mind but we have had 2 weeks to rest up players for this game and as far as I'm aware WooD and Ladapo were not injured at the end of the Preston game. What else can I reasonably think?

I'm willing to be persuaded. You tell me...You are not providing me with anything that might change my mind.

The sub malarki isnt hard to explain ...Rilets only had a 30 seater coach available for the team bus

[millertop]

Might be saving on hotel bill seeing that we are away again on Tuesday to QPR

[WanChaiMiller]

Its all relative I suppose. Forest Derby and the mighty Wednesday lost. Wycombe and Cov drew. If anyone thought it would be easy they are supporting the wrong club. Maybe they should switch to Man U.

Im with Warne on this to an extent. There are games where we will compete. Others where we need to stay in the game as long as possible and hope we can nick something.

[WanChaiMiller]

So will owt be done about the ref that thinks putting your arm out to stop a goal is having it in natural position? No

Can’t wait for him to ref our next game against a “bigger” club

Need VAR Millertop.

[WanChaiMiller]

What the fxxx as lower league players got to do with getting more injuries ??

Do you think higher league players have a greater resistance to injuries than ours, if so why is Man City have over trained Aguero “knackering him up “

Why do you think you know more than Warne Barker Hamshaw and Warrington who have about 120 years experience in the professional game between them ? They have trained and played every day,they understand the game ! They understand how players react to training and physical efforts ! We have sports science coaches as well with the latest knowledge and techniques in sports injuries.
It’s grossly condescending of you to keep slipping this out slating our club ,management and staff.
You can’t accept the fact that at the moment we have injuries but maybe come March/ April when we are in the run in other clubs might have a lot more injuries than us.

100% Millertale.

[rolymiller]

What the fxxx as lower league players got to do with getting more injuries ??

Do you think higher league players have a greater resistance to injuries than ours, if so why is Man City have over trained Aguero “knackering him up “

Why do you think you know more than Warne Barker Hamshaw and Warrington who have about 120 years experience in the professional game between them ? They have trained and played every day,they understand the game ! They understand how players react to training and physical efforts ! We have sports science coaches as well with the latest knowledge and techniques in sports injuries.
It’s grossly condescending of you to keep slipping this out slating our club ,management and staff.
You can’t accept the fact that at the moment we have injuries but maybe come March/ April when we are in the run in other clubs might have a lot more injuries than us.

Its just an opinion so put the titty lip back in. Disagree by all means. I don't doubt Warne etc are qualified to train players but nobody is perfect.

Does it not worry you the amount of injuries we seem to get compared to other clubs or aint you bothered,? Don't you think we need to have a rethink about what is happening or we should just carry on as we are? Can we sustain anymore serious injuries? I hope you are right by the way that other clubs may end up with more later on.

I'm not asking for any major change. I KNOW players have to be fit but maybe it needs a little tweak do you think?

By the way this is the polite bit of the board knob head...

I will say it AGAIN. I love warne to bits but he is not beyond criticism as is nobody not even our lass(but don't tell her that!)

[WanChaiMiller]

Its just an opinion so put the titty lip back in. Disagree by all means. I don't doubt Warne etc are qualified to train players but nobody is perfect.

Does it not worry you the amount of injuries we seem to get compared to other clubs or aint you bothered,? Don't you think we need to have a rethink about what is happening or we should just carry on as we are? Can we sustain anymore serious injuries? I hope you are right by the way that other clubs may end up with more later on.

I'm not asking for any major change. I KNOW players have to be fit but maybe it needs a little tweak do you think?

By the way this is the polite bit of the board knob head...

I will say it AGAIN. I love warne to bits but he is not beyond criticism as is nobody not even our lass(but don't tell her that!)

I suspect you are wrong and said as much on another thread.

You need to show us your research and the comparison between us and all other clubs. Also an analysis of each injury and how they occured and demostrate that those injuries have been caused by 'over training'.

This isnt an opinion based subject. You can only have a valued view based on research. If you cant show the researsh I dont think you can be taken seriously.

[rolymiller]

I suspect you are wrong and said as much on another thread.

You need to show us your research and the comparison between us and all other clubs. Also an analysis of each injury and how they occured and demostrate that those injuries have been caused by 'over training'.

This isnt an opinion based subject. You can only have a valued view based on research. If you cant show the researsh I dont think you can be taken seriously.

Fair enough.

At what point at least hypothetically would you think we may need to look at training methods as a club Wanchai? 12 players out? 20 players out with long term injuries?

Irrespective of training methods, how may more players can we have injured long term if we seriously want to stay up this season? How many can any club?

Its a question for discussion

I will assume we are just an unlucky club if i accept it is not down to how players are trained.

[WanChaiMiller]

Fair enough.

At what point at least hypothetically would you think we may need to look at training methods as a club Wanchai? 12 players out? 20 players out with long term injuries?

I will assume we are just an unlucky club.

As a coaching staff they will look at fatigue every day - morning to afternoon. All players work with heart rate monitors. They will access fatigue from one hour to the next; each and every day in training and matches and alter training plans accordingly.

What you describe as 'over training' (or, conversely, recovery periods) is a real simple basic concept in modern sport training. If its overlooked at our club, it will be negligent to an extreme (when I say modern I mean the last 15 to 20 years).