O/T Trussed in Leader gone

[animallittle3]

I have a different theory and you won't agree either.
Inflation should peak at the end of the year and then ease early next year.
Bank of England won't increase interest rates as much as was predicted.
The pound will rise slightly and the Markets will quieten and stabalise.
The Tories will then unite rather than let Labour in. They will then brush this latest fiasco under the carpet as if it never happened.
My dad has a saying, "theres nowt so queer as folk".
All dependant on who is new Tory leader and what cuts Hunt is intending.
Get ready, can't wait till 31st October, or will they move it to November?

Personally I don't think the Tories can come together such is the division and the amount of factions that exist within it .

The subject of Brexit is still ripping them apart , before 2016 it was whether they should leave or not that dividing them , today is now we've left they can't come together and agree what that looks like for the country .

The casualty list of Brexit is extraordinary , Cameron , May , Johnson didn't really get Brexit done at all and now Truss .

The right of the Tory Party hate Sunak who they see as the man who turned Johnson over plus he's seen as a high tax chancellor .
Johnson clearly has his enemies with many threatening to walk away should he be reinstated as PM , presumably to become Independents .

Mourdant may have half a chance of some unification but I don't see her passing the 100 threshold needed .

That's without mentioning what's going on in the world outside , inflation at 10.1% and not coming down any time soon , a recession if we aren't already in one , fuel bills , increase in mortgage payments , potential stagnant house prices .

It's quite a list to get on top of in two years with a divided party .

The enthusiasm to unite no matter what doesn't exist with Starmer as Labour leader as it did with Corbyn who would have thrown everything they've achieved ( if you can call it that ) on a bonfire .

There a saying in UK politics , the Tories aren't always in office but they are always in power and whilst they don't much care for the opposition benches at least under a Starmer government they can live with it .

I think the electorate are ready for change too , this happens as it did in 1997 and 2010 .

The political parties all have a shelf life .

[great_fire]

Just think if Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader, & Labour won a election now.
He would have been sending aid to Russia, instead of the Ukraine.
Thank God they got shut of him has Labour leader.

Doubtful. Probably would be sitting on the fence. Actually he would have been removed from power pretty quickly if he'd won, just like Truss.

[animallittle3]

Doubtful. Probably would be sitting on the fence. Actually he would have been removed from power pretty quickly if he'd won, just like Truss.

The truth is there is no Labour Party any more Fire and neither is there a Conservative Party , if there ever was at all .

Both of the major party's are made up a fractions that if they are winning elections hold together and when they aren't they fall apart until they find something that can hold them together and repeat .

In my opinion both party's are finished , done for and completely incapable of actually fixing anything of substance .

The voting system is the only thing that keeps them alive and on life support which means they aren't exactly likely to switch it off and bring in PR .

[great_fire]

And Sunak's boss at Goldman Sachs, as I've just said.

Apologies to animallittle, it's Richard Sharp, the BBC Chairman who was Sunak's boss at Goldman Sachs, not Tim Davie as I said.

[CAMiller]

I see you got the new lad in charge now!

[ragingpup]

I see you got the new lad in charge now!

Lovely stitch up from the party to get them back to a more centrist facade and to be fair to them anything else woud have been the end of them. Very dire warnings of austerity #2 though. Even the library where old folk can go to keep warm will be closing down.

[Nardendee]

I suppose they got in the new pm as SUNAK they possibly could.

I’ll get mi coat.

[Nardendee]

In my opinion this man started the decline:

https://youtu.be/Atku5LWhjog

[ragingpup]

Personally I don't think the Tories can come together such is the division and the amount of factions that exist within it .

The subject of Brexit is still ripping them apart , before 2016 it was whether they should leave or not that dividing them , today is now we've left they can't come together and agree what that looks like for the country .

The casualty list of Brexit is extraordinary , Cameron , May , Johnson didn't really get Brexit done at all and now Truss .

The right of the Tory Party hate Sunak who they see as the man who turned Johnson over plus he's seen as a high tax chancellor .
Johnson clearly has his enemies with many threatening to walk away should he be reinstated as PM , presumably to become Independents .

Mourdant may have half a chance of some unification but I don't see her passing the 100 threshold needed .

That's without mentioning what's going on in the world outside , inflation at 10.1% and not coming down any time soon , a recession if we aren't already in one , fuel bills , increase in mortgage payments , potential stagnant house prices .

It's quite a list to get on top of in two years with a divided party .

The enthusiasm to unite no matter what doesn't exist with Starmer as Labour leader as it did with Corbyn who would have thrown everything they've achieved ( if you can call it that ) on a bonfire .

There a saying in UK politics , the Tories aren't always in office but they are always in power and whilst they don't much care for the opposition benches at least under a Starmer government they can live with it .

I think the electorate are ready for change too , this happens as it did in 1997 and 2010 .

The political parties all have a shelf life .

I think recent times tells us that whilst passionate left and right party members might fight to drag politics in their direction, the mainstream staus quo has many built in protections to stop that happening. Yes, mainstream norm is perhaps centre right rather than centre left which means that labour can only really come to power by taking very centrist positions, but at least we there is just as much mainstream resistence to the extreme positions to the likes of Truss, Farage and some of the other loons discussed on here as there are to Corbyn and the like. The party members on both sides tend to be left disappointed.

Onwards. Centre right we may be but without the general acceptance that we will all have to pay more (progressive preferably but what do I know?!) for the public services and H&SC that we would all like, we will just have to swallow the service cuts coming once again our way. We gets what we deserve at the end of the day.

Go easy on us Richie!

[mygiddypant]

In my opinion this man started the decline:

https://youtu.be/Atku5LWhjog

Brilliant! Thanks for the introduction