Give the manager more time

[Bohinen]

Our owners weren't just taking a random punt on someone. It wasn't a gamble that backfired. They will have thought long and hard about the type of coach they wanted 'in the building' before settling on Maynard.

The reasons why they chose him haven't disappeared or been invalidated because of a three of four poor results. For the same reason you wouldn't drop a lot of money on a certain stock that you've spent many hours analysing only to panic sell it a few weeks later because it went down 5%.

What I'm trying to say is, major decisions that change the course of the club's future take time to make. You need to be absolutely certain you are making the right decision and that you have exhausted all possibilities of a turnaround in fortunes.

Sacking the manager isn't the first thing you do so solve a problem, it's one of the last. Being in danger of relegation would force a bit more urgency, but we aren't in that position yet.

Thank god our owners don't think like some of our fans do, or we'd be back to three managers a season and eternal decline.

Every decision the owners or Football Radar make is not infallible. Some they win, some they lose. Burchnall wasn't a great appointment, LW more so. Morias didn't arrive on a whim, there would have been analysis, but that didn't make him a guaranteed success.

The owners may yet surprise you, people are making assumptions about what they will do.

[1955pie]

Our owners weren't just taking a random punt on someone. It wasn't a gamble that backfired. They will have thought long and hard about the type of coach they wanted 'in the building' before settling on Maynard.

The reasons why they chose him haven't disappeared or been invalidated because of a three of four poor results. For the same reason you wouldn't drop a lot of money on a certain stock that you've spent many hours analysing only to panic sell it a few weeks later because it went down 5%.

What I'm trying to say is, major decisions that change the course of the club's future take time to make. You need to be absolutely certain you are making the right decision and that you have exhausted all possibilities of a turnaround in fortunes.

Sacking the manager isn't the first thing you do so solve a problem, it's one of the last. Being in danger of relegation would force a bit more urgency, but we aren't in that position yet.

Thank god our owners don't think like some of our fans do, or we'd be back to three managers a season and eternal decline.

Most of what you say Slack is correct.
However, our previous manager walked out on us mid season. I would suggest that they had to come to a decision much more quickly than they would have liked and having to choose from a much smaller set of candidates. So I don’t necessarily think you can dismiss the possibility that they might change their minds if and when the right person became available.
If SM can achieve something like a 50% win rate in his remaining matches then he will have steadied the ship.
Montague should still go though.

[1955pie]

I am absolutely one hundred percent behind the idea that we need to strengthen our defence at the next window and sincerely hope we do so.

Therein lies the problem.
We should have strengthened our defence 2 windows ago.
Why didn’t they?
Poor judgement? Flawed Radar algorithm?
No money? Instructions from the top?
Whatever. Barring a miraculous turnaround (in which case we will all think SM is a genius) the season has gone.
Come the end of April if performances and results haven’t improved considerably then SM will be gone along with our head of recruitment.

[Dunce]

I think a problem we have as Notts fans is a tendency to go straight for the nuclear option - demands to sack the manager, sack the CEO, sack the tea lady/person, etc - even though that approach rarely works. Sacking the manager should be the last option, not the first one.

To be honest, that tea lady wants sacking. There's been no sugar in the Pavis for weeks!!

[slack_pie]

To be honest, that tea lady wants sacking. There's been no sugar in the Pavis for weeks!!

I'd say the best solution to that problem is to completely destroy the entire Pavis stand and build a new one mid-season.

[matt_magpie]

The truth is we don’t know if SMs any good or not as we haven’t seen him on the training ground or know what the players think.
We shipped goals when LW was here and against not great sides.
I just looked at the players Tues night and thought who out there has the defensive side to them and came to the conclusion Robertsons pretty tough and has the desire in front of the back 3 and then look at the back 3 and see Cameron not even competing for headers, Warner obviously trying to get to grips with men’s football, Rawlinson losing all his mobility and whilst I do believe Baldwin can defend he goes and makes that mistake and also the tangle with Bostock Sat and just come to the conclusion of what can SM really do?

[jackal2]

I'm not saying they're infallible, I'm saying they're calm and calculated. Calm and calculated people don't panic and make rash decisions. They wait patiently until they know with as much certainty as possible what the right decision is.

If they prove me wrong and sack Maynard today like people are asking for, we've got bigger problems than I realised.

I don't know when enough is enough. For me, it's not yet. It might be clearer in a month or so.

I'd agree with that.

If the owners made a snap decision now it would worry me a lot more than our current slump in form, because it would be a sign that they're moving away from the approach the has mainly worked over the past three years, and into the territory occupied by previous owners, which mainly didn't work.

The only circumstance in which a decision this soon might be justified is if the players as a group are telling the owners they can't work with Maynard, as was reportedly the case with Harry Kewell, and this would need to be genuinely evidenced within the club, not mischief-makers on message boards saying they've heard this or that or making the famous "lost the dressing room" claim.

If results over March and April proved to be diabolical then it probably would force the brothers' hand because they would need to consider whether they still trust the current Head Coach to set us up for a new season, but at this stage the only certainty is that Maynard has had a poor start results-wise. Factor in also that the team was already going out of form when he arrived, and that the performances at Newport and Wrexham were actually very good.

Maynard has inherited a defence that by common consensus isn't considered good enough, so the same problem would face any Head Coach that replaced him. Over the next few weeks if he can find a way of stopping the goals going into our net, using current resources at his disposal, then it would actually be a sign of some managerial/tactical ability.

[OldBanksy]

I don't believe SM was first choice. Perhaps not even second choice.
I would expect the club to stick with him until the end of the season. If performances and results don't improve by then, he'll be gone.

[matt_magpie]

I don't believe SM was first choice. Perhaps not even second choice.
I would expect the club to stick with him until the end of the season. If performances and results don't improve by then, he'll be gone.

They specifically said he was their first choice.

[Piebald]

Some great posts and concerns
Recruitment recruitment recruitment
Whatever decision making process has been used since Wembley has failed to address our defending and goalkeeper.
Will the club please sort this out. Simples.
A major overhaul is required in the close season.
In the meantime inconsistencies will inevitably continue unless
players return to their effective roles
( changing these roles gives them an excuse for not performing )
I think SM and his coaching team would benefit from help and advice from an experienced mentor as suggested by others
This requires leadership from the top and a coming together of all concerned to restore the feel good factor and the dignity of the club.
This will demonstrate that our long term support is cherished.
COYP