Partick Thistle (A) March 2024

[JamesMcClean]

Surprised it’s not been highlighted but the big donkey was offside for their goal BTW……………

[JUSTaway]

Our form has been poor ever since and including the home defeat to Raith. A lot of terrible performances, some ok results, but very few reassuring performances, probably Patrick thistle at home and Raith away when we failed to get the job done.

Maybe if we keep wetherspoon/docherty fit it might help, but that's a big if. It's easy to target tilson and grieve, unfairly at times, but bottom line is they haven't improved us. I thought grieve was brought in as an option to play alongside moult or up top,but he seems to just be filling one of the three positions behind the striker, which I don't think he has the skills for, suprised he has been given four starts.

As for Middleton/watt, I honestly don't think they are underachievers, I just think this is their level, they will will have moments but don't have to the ability to dominate or be consistent. Manager could get more out of them by moving them about a bit more, even during games. He is so rigid in where he uses them though.

[Stoke_Arab]

When the budget relies on the need to offload players, i wish there was another word to describe it! On Gallagher though, i seem to remember JG brought him in with the knowledge that someone else was on the verge of signing elsewhere, and while that was a rumour at the time, i think JG also said something to that effect in an interview.

And i dont think we have much support for JG in searching for new players. He is a manager and i think all the previous DoFs team left with him.

Think it was mentioned that JG is working with Luigi Capuano on transfers but presumably there's no scouting being done by Capuano! I think the players that have come in have been identified by JG, Capuano doing the contracts etc.
In the circumstances I think they did pretty well to offload so many so quickly and JG's recruitment has been ok (with a couple of exceptions 😎

It was only a few months ago that we were praising the turnaround done quickly on a low budget.

The problem imo isn't the players as such, it's the inability of the coach to blend them into a side that has the creative ability to consistently break down packed defences. So often we've huffed and puffed and run out of ideas.

[southwestarab]

Just watched the highlights of Saturday’s game on Patrick too. Camera was behind the goals in the Thistle end. As you can imagine highlights were pretty one sided in fact I don’t think Moult’s goal was actually shown. However it clearly shows Brian Graham a yard offside as it was headed on. I think someone mentioned this in a previous post but United highlights package is taken from the centre so not as obvious.

[PT_Arab]

Just watched the highlights of Saturday’s game on Patrick too. Camera was behind the goals in the Thistle end. As you can imagine highlights were pretty one sided in fact I don’t think Moult’s goal was actually shown. However it clearly shows Brian Graham a yard offside as it was headed on. I think someone mentioned this in a previous post but United highlights package is taken from the centre so not as obvious.

I thought it was hard to tell who headed it on though - was it a Partick team mate or was it a united player? I haven't seen the angle you're talking about mind you.

[southwestarab]

I thought it was hard to tell who headed it on though - was it a Partick team mate or was it a united player? I haven't seen the angle you're talking about mind you.

It was Partick tv that I saw the highlights on. Camera was behind the goals so was really close up to play. Thought it was a Thistle head that headed it on but will have another look. Good result tonight.
Just watched it again. To me it was deffo a Thistle head that knocked it on. It’s on you tube , Partick archive.

[Yeats 62]

I thought it was hard to tell who headed it on though - was it a Partick team mate or was it a united player? I haven't seen the angle you're talking about mind you.

It doesn't matter who's head it came off as the original ball was played forward by a Partick player, which would instantly play any attacking player offside before any contact was made. Unless.......... someone is saying BG managed to move from an onside position to a hanging on the post position in a micro-second.

Sour grapes , I know, but... I'd still rather live with it than having to put up with VAR.

[PT_Arab]

It doesn't matter who's head it came off as the original ball was played forward by a Partick player, which would instantly play any attacking player offside before any contact was made. Unless.......... someone is saying BG managed to move from an onside position to a hanging on the post position in a micro-second.

Sour grapes , I know, but... I'd still rather live with it than having to put up with VAR.

Surely it does matter though - when the ball is kicked from the corner, there is a cluster of players (attackers and defenders) on the goal line, so Graham can't be offside. The flight time of the ball from the corner is well over a second (not a micro-second) and the players that were on the goal line move out to challenge for the ball. The ball is headed on to Graham who is in an offside position, but if it is a United player who headed it, then he's not offside. It's not the kick from the corner that you take it from, it's the header from the six yard line.

[Dreamsof83]

It doesn't matter who's head it came off as the original ball was played forward by a Partick player, which would instantly play any attacking player offside before any contact was made. Unless.......... someone is saying BG managed to move from an onside position to a hanging on the post position in a micro-second.

Sour grapes , I know, but... I'd still rather live with it than having to put up with VAR.

If it came off a United head and was deemed a deliberate attempt to play the ball, then it becomes a new phase of play and he is onside. Nonsense rules if you ask me, but they are what they are.

Ultimately, still happier with some errors than with VAR. If it was even an error........

[Yeats 62]

If it came off a United head and was deemed a deliberate attempt to play the ball, then it becomes a new phase of play and he is onside. Nonsense rules if you ask me, but they are what they are.

Ultimately, still happier with some errors than with VAR. If it was even an error........

A new phase of play, in a micro-second? That's a new one on me, but..I'm sure you are correct, I got bored, and can't keep up with all the ridiculous changes ages ago.

Can we just play a forward nowadays in an advanced position then, waiting on a defender to attempt to play the ball, and if they do get a clip then the new phase plays them onside? It's obvious you know the new rules, but FFS....what's happening to the game???

I gie up ...