OT Corrupt BBC at it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frogmiller]

Everyone!

Climate change happens. It has done since dai one of the existence of the planet earth.

It has been hot I mean really hot and cold. Cold enough that elephants changed their name to woolly mammoths.. imagine having to grow a jumper hey?

The temperature changes on a daily basis! Where I live it can warm up as much as 30 degrees in on day!

You know what? Absolutely **** all happens until winter! Then it gets really cold!

It is said that if a volcano explodes then regardless of what the human output is it isn?t compatible to 3 or 4 large volcanos! I hope that never happens again!

Apparently the amount of extra CO2 last year lead to an increase of plant life on earth! That is the lady thing we need!

Something that thrives on CO2 cannot be good for us especially if we are proposing a plant based diet!

I?ll stop there before I stop breathing!

[John2]

Everyone!

Climate change happens. It has done since dai one of the existence of the planet earth.

It has been hot I mean really hot and cold. Cold enough that elephants changed their name to woolly mammoths.. imagine having to grow a jumper hey?

The temperature changes on a daily basis! Where I live it can warm up as much as 30 degrees in on day!

You know what? Absolutely **** all happens until winter! Then it gets really cold!

It is said that if a volcano explodes then regardless of what the human output is it isn?t compatible to 3 or 4 large volcanos! I hope that never happens again!

Apparently the amount of extra CO2 last year lead to an increase of plant life on earth! That is the lady thing we need!

Something that thrives on CO2 cannot be good for us especially if we are proposing a plant based diet!

I?ll stop there before I stop breathing!

This one is so shockingly misinformed.

Where to begin.

Well, first, ou don't appear to understand the difference between weather and climate. They are different things.

But what on earth are you trying to say about volcanoes? It doesnt appear to be grounded in any reason. Volcanoes emit nowhere near as much as humans.

[frogmiller]

Volcanoes don?t emit any humans!

The overall downside to the co2 argument is that there is more ice now although it was all supposed to melt!
Doncaster is still not a seaside resort!
There are more polar bears than there have been for years!
There is more greenery and bigger crop yields especially in bio farms.
The overall amount of floods are the same as years gone by!
Lightening host the earth roughly the same amount of times!
Hurricanes still set off from the same point in Africa!
Whales numbers are increasing everywhere thanks to the use of so called fossil fuels.
Fossil fuels still haven?t run out even though 35 years ago oil was said only to have only 50 years left.
Insurance is still being sold in cities at the side of rivers like London. Surely if the risk was too great they wouldn?t put themselves at risk!
Leasehold are being extended throughout the nation of Britain!

There is do much contradiction but everything is still the same but we pay more!

Oh my! Is that it? Is it a con? Are they scaring us to pay more?

Who would have funk it?

Who is yet to wake up to the scam?

Who still believes that politicians are serving the people?

[avondalemiller]

Volcanoes don?t emit any humans!

The overall downside to the co2 argument is that there is more ice now although it was all supposed to melt!
Doncaster is still not a seaside resort!
There are more polar bears than there have been for years!
There is more greenery and bigger crop yields especially in bio farms.
The overall amount of floods are the same as years gone by!
Lightening host the earth roughly the same amount of times!
Hurricanes still set off from the same point in Africa!
Whales numbers are increasing everywhere thanks to the use of so called fossil fuels.
Fossil fuels still haven?t run out even though 35 years ago oil was said only to have only 50 years left.
Insurance is still being sold in cities at the side of rivers like London. Surely if the risk was too great they wouldn?t put themselves at risk!
Leasehold are being extended throughout the nation of Britain!

There is do much contradiction but everything is still the same but we pay more!

Oh my! Is that it? Is it a con? Are they scaring us to pay more?

Who would have funk it?

Who is yet to wake up to the scam?

Who still believes that politicians are serving the people?

.....major problem with floods is people building on the flood plains. The weirdest thing is that people buy these houses and moan when it floods.............Catcliffe???

[ragingpup]

Volcanoes don?t emit any humans!

The overall downside to the co2 argument is that there is more ice now although it was all supposed to melt!
Doncaster is still not a seaside resort!
There are more polar bears than there have been for years!
There is more greenery and bigger crop yields especially in bio farms.
The overall amount of floods are the same as years gone by!
Lightening host the earth roughly the same amount of times!
Hurricanes still set off from the same point in Africa!
Whales numbers are increasing everywhere thanks to the use of so called fossil fuels.
Fossil fuels still haven?t run out even though 35 years ago oil was said only to have only 50 years left.
Insurance is still being sold in cities at the side of rivers like London. Surely if the risk was too great they wouldn?t put themselves at risk!
Leasehold are being extended throughout the nation of Britain!

There is do much contradiction but everything is still the same but we pay more!

Oh my! Is that it? Is it a con? Are they scaring us to pay more?

Who would have funk it?

Who is yet to wake up to the scam?

Who still believes that politicians are serving the people?

Where on Earth do you get your info on this from Froggie?? Most of what you say are completely and verifiably untrue:


There is more ice now although it was all supposed to melt!
FALSE. There is significantly less ice in the arctics now, especially in the Arctic which shaows 12% summer ice loss per decade since 1979. Combined with the Antarctic, Earth is missing over 2.5 million square kilometers of sea ice compared to late-20th-century averages?an area comparable to the eastern half of the United States

There are more polar bears than there have been for years!
FALSE
There are more polar bears than there have been for years! FALSE. Polar bear numbers across their territories have declined by between 40 and 50%, although some territories are stable, others are badly hit. Usually those most affected by thinning ice due toclimate change.


There is more greenery and bigger crop yields especially in bio farms.
TRUE but that is due to previously colder places warming up due to....climate change


The overall amount of floods are the same as years gone by!
FALSE. Flood related disasters have increased 180% in the two decades since 2000 when compared to 1980 - 2000

Lightening host the earth roughly the same amount of times!
FALSE. Strkes have increased by 12 - 20% since the turn of 20th century


Hurricanes still set off from the same point in Africa!
TRUE but most studies agree that climate change, with warmer areas becoming warmer and more humid means that the intensity of the hurricanes is more severe.

Whales numbers are increasing everywhere thanks to the use of so called fossil fuels.
TRUE but this is largely due to significant bans on whale hunting and other conservation and has little to do with fossil fuels.



Must do better xx

[ragingpup]

Everyone!

Climate change happens. It has done since dai one of the existence of the planet earth.

It has been hot I mean really hot and cold. Cold enough that elephants changed their name to woolly mammoths.. imagine having to grow a jumper hey?

The temperature changes on a daily basis! Where I live it can warm up as much as 30 degrees in on day!

You know what? Absolutely **** all happens until winter! Then it gets really cold!

It is said that if a volcano explodes then regardless of what the human output is it isn?t compatible to 3 or 4 large volcanos! I hope that never happens again!

Apparently the amount of extra CO2 last year lead to an increase of plant life on earth! That is the lady thing we need!

Something that thrives on CO2 cannot be good for us especially if we are proposing a plant based diet!

I?ll stop there before I stop breathing!

I wish this was correct froggie but it really isn't.

In very, very simple terms, Earth's temperature only changes very slowly, like really really slowly over 100s of years. The main periods are the Eocene period, 50 million years ago when we were a greenhouse, the ice caps were tropical and the global temp was about 24 deg centigrade. Over millions of years, and with some dips and ups on the way it fell down to the lowest point, the last Glacial period approx 22000 years ago, and since has been climbing up to the crucial and current holocene period starting around 12000 years ago where the global tem settled at around 13.8 deg and thus settled in the sweet spot that enibled life to flourish and within this temperature, between 13.8 and 14 deg global temp, human life has evolved and developed all of our existing infrastructure with only a very, very little upturn of temp from 13.8 to 14 degrees in this last 12000 years.

But then, just in the last 150 years alone, the global temperature has risen to approx 15.2 degrees!! That's a huge jump and it is demonstrably down to human activity. It's unprecedented in that space of time! No other point of history shows that level of change.

Scientists pretty much agree that we can manage this increase without huge changes in our climate experience up to about 15.5 degrees, the first 'tipping point' at which point you would start to see significant changes in climates with increases in 'wild weather' and some parts of the Earth starting to become uninhabitable due to water loss. At the current rate of change, we will hit this point in around 10 years time.

Beyond this, the next tipping point - 16 degrees, is where there would be very significant changes with melting ice sheets increasing sea levels back into the lower reaches of the Eocene period, and at this point significant parts of the hotter continents wouuld not be habitable through water loss and much of the inhabitable parts including Europe would be lost to raised sea levels.

Sorry Howdy, this isn't scaremongering, it is just waht happens when the global temperature reaches certain levels. As I said the main point is that a temperature change from 14 to 16 degrees in the space of 200 years is completely unprecedented in the natural evolution of the Earth (save natural catastrophes, and I'm sorry but even a very nasty big **** off volcano wouldn't come anything close to making this level of difference)

[ragingpup]

https://www.share-talk.com/china-has...-in-220-years/

I think I tried to explain animal - we all know this historical poor output from China, I was just trying to explain (with some optimism) that there seems to have been a significant sea change in the last couple of years and a resultant slowing/halting of emissions output. See last Reuters link I posted (unless you have any different data to that from Reuters?)

[Spuddy Speight]

On the topic of changes to the Earth's climate the increase in atmospheric CO2 is expected to postpone the start of the next ice age by at least 50,000 years, possibly extending it to about 100,000 years from now.
Parts of the UK will be under water before then. Many inland areas will be beside the seaside.
Get the deck chairs ready!

Parts of Rotherham are just under 200 feet above sea level!
Parkgate Retail World is in that category.

[Eternal Optimist]

To return to the thread topic, for those who don't believe the WEF are in control of those who would harm our country, here's Tim Davie...

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I don?t understand why nobody has been sacked from the Panorama team