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Thread: O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

  1. #1011
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    I was offered mine last week. They've mixed it with the flu and cold vaccine. I left the letter at the side of the bin and I can't for the life of me find it.
    Got my offer from my Doctor's surgery yesterday to go and have the double dose jab. No thank you!

  2. #1012
    A major study involving 1.7 million children has found that heart damage only appeared in children who had received Covid mRNA vaccines.

    Not a single unvaccinated child in the group suffered from heart-related problems.

    In addition, the researchers note zero children from the entire group, vaccinated or unvaccinated, died from COVID-19.

    https://slaynews.com/news/study-mill...d-vaxxed-kids/

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    Don’t let Kerr see this, he’ll have a fit

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    Having any and all vaccines authorised for kids takes away legal responsibilities from the pharmaceutical companies and puts it onto the tax payers.

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    I'm on holiday at the moment, 2 weeks before the holiday I had covid, having a few bad days with it.
    We are booked in for the flu / covid jabs.
    Last year & early this year we were in Turkey for a month each time, one of our friends found she had covid both times, so hopefully when we all come home, she won't have got this time.
    This is the problem with airplane cabins, a virus or germs are soon spread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericsladkilnhurst View Post
    I'm on holiday at the moment, 2 weeks before the holiday I had covid, having a few bad days with it.
    We are booked in for the flu / covid jabs.
    Last year & early this year we were in Turkey for a month each time, one of our friends found she had covid both times, so hopefully when we all come home, she won't have got this time.
    This is the problem with airplane cabins, a virus or germs are soon spread.
    So you've had your Covid jabs in order to go on holiday, then self tested to confirm you have Covid, despite this you're in line for another jab - knowing for a fact that it doesn't stop Covid...

    It's your body, but why on earth would you persist with a treatment that clearly doesn't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Optimist View Post
    A major study involving 1.7 million children has found that heart damage only appeared in children who had received Covid mRNA vaccines.

    Not a single unvaccinated child in the group suffered from heart-related problems.

    In addition, the researchers note zero children from the entire group, vaccinated or unvaccinated, died from COVID-19.
    I’m guessing that you haven’t bothered to read the paper upon which that article is based?

    I have. It's sad to see the way that science is distoterd by those with an agenda.

    The first thing to note is that it’s a ‘pre-print’ which means that it is yet to be peer reviewed. I am not in a position to comment upon the methodology used (that would take many hours/days to assess), The authors look like credible scientists, however.

    I’m struggling to understand the claim that 1.7 million records were considered – the actual number was significantly lower than that. I would also question the use of the expression ‘heart damage’. The cardiac complications looked at in the study were myocarditis and pericarditis – i.e inflammation of elements of the heart and conditions that are generally transitory.

    The conclusion within the abstract of the paper reads:

    BNT162b2 (the 1st generation Pfizer vaccine) vaccination in adolescents reduced COVID-19 A&E attendance and hospitalisation, although these outcomes were rare. Protection against positive SARS-CoV-2 tests was transient.

    The patient records were divided between adolescents (12 to 15) and children (5 to 11).

    In respect of the adolescent group (12 to 15) the paper states:

    there were …9 cases of pericarditis and 3 cases of myocarditis. All pericarditis and myocarditis events occurred in the first dose group, while all COVID-19 related critical care admissions were in the unvaccinated group.

    In respect of the child group, the paper states:

    No children experienced a myocarditis event, all 3 pericarditis events occurred after first vaccination and did not require hospitalisation or critical care.

    In fairness to your article, the paper does state:

    Whilst rare, all myocarditis and pericarditis events during the study period occurred in vaccinated individuals: there were no deaths after myocarditis or pericarditis.

    Within the discussion within the papers, the authors state:

    Our findings provide insights into the balance between protection by vaccination against target outcomes (positive SARS-CoV-2 tests, COVID-19 related hospitalisation and emergency care) and the increased risk of pericarditis and myocarditis. In adolescents the reduction in risk of COVID-19 hospitalisation per 10,000 individuals (-1.14 for first dose versus unvaccinated, -1.45 for second versus first dose) was larger than the increase in risk of both myocarditis (0.08 for first dose versus unvaccinated) and pericarditis (0.31 for first dose versus unvaccinated, 0.21 for second versus first dose). However, the reduction in risk of COVID-19 hospitalisation in children (-0.02 for first dose versus unvaccinated) was lower than the increase in risk of pericarditis (0.22).

    I could go on (I usually do) but in summary the paper states what we mostly already knew:

    1. The vaccine provides a degree of protection against hospitalisation and severe illness.
    2. The protection provided by the vaccine against contraction of covid (as assessed by way of a positive test) is relatively short lived.
    3. That myocarditis and pericarditis are rare side effects of the Pfizer vaccine, but are generally mild and self-limiting.

    Why do you suppose the 'COVID-19 related critical care admissions' in the unnvaccinated group did not feature in the article that you linked to?

  8. #1018
    It's such a shame you're clearly so deeply invested in this psy-op. Any response would be a waste of pixels.

    Best thing you can do is to keep taking your jabs. Bill Gates will be proud of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Optimist View Post
    It's such a shame you're clearly so deeply invested in this psy-op. Any response would be a waste of pixels.

    Best thing you can do is to keep taking your jabs. Bill Gates will be proud of you.
    In fairness Kerr isn't the one that keeps adding new posts to the thread, which indicates that the huge investment in time and preoccupation with the theme isn't as deep as some others on here. I suspect if no further studies are added to here, Kerr wouldn't appear at all, but if people keep posting dodgy stuies and research with holes all ove rthem, he'll likely pick up on it and ask you more questions which you won't be able to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Optimist View Post
    It's such a shame you're clearly so deeply invested in this psy-op. Any response would be a waste of pixels.

    Best thing you can do is to keep taking your jabs. Bill Gates will be proud of you.
    Thanks. I had flu and covid vaccinations last week.

    Sore shoulders!

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