O/T EU Vote In/Out

[Brian Grantland]

growth in real gdp per capita

[Getintaethem]

growth in real gdp per capita

This is where your whole FACT falls down. You cannot and should not look at one stat in isolation. Most people would say that China has outperformed the UK over the past few years as GDP has been huge. But GDP per capita is tiny in comparison to the UK's and wealth disparity is even larger. Comparing one stat from one country against another country is what politicians do to make political points... its called spin. It is also easier to get larger percentage increases in GDP per capita over a period of time when you are comparing relatively poorer countries to richer ones.

There are many problems with GDP per capita (does not include assets (houses, stocks etc.), the black economy, wages or wealth distribution) and even more problems when trying to compare GDP per capita between countries. The black economy in Italy is estimated to be around 30%, for example, in comparison to the UK's 5%. Even worse when you do it in isolation of all the other economic, historical and social differences between countries.

So, it is not really a FACT, its more an opinion with the backing of one statistic in isolation that in of itself does not compare apples with apples.

Even if you were right and we have experienced higher growth in comparison to the US and other countries in the EU, this does not prove that this happened because we were in the EU. Our growth could have been the same or larger outside the EU. No one knows for sure as we cannot both be in and out of the EU at the same time and therefore this is not a FACT either.

[TheDeeDon]

The shyte from the politicians will be ramped up in the last couple of days all the great and corrupt in our society will be out telling us the dangers of breaking away. It will be a remain win come Thursday IMO, but the margin of their success is going to be interesting, they really need around 70% of the vote, in my opinion, for this to go away. If it is a narrow win for remain the tory part will turn on itself so could be interesting times, just a pity there is no real opposition to rip them to bits.

[Buc]

By Friday morning this EU vote will be put to bed.

For me it looks like 55% in and 45% out with the undecideds mostly voting in..

Now this isn't a fact its just my gut feeling.

What do you lads think the percentage vote will be .

[Stupie82]

By Friday morning this EU vote will be put to bed.

For me it looks like 55% in and 45% out with the undecideds mostly voting in..

Now this isn't a fact its just my gut feeling.

What do you lads think the percentage vote will be .

As much as I am voting out, "In" will win. % guess I would say 52% in and 48% out. Per country % will vastly differ, with the English being the closest call out of the lot.

[Buc]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PQN0A8FbI

[Rochead]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PQN0A8FbI

Sorry Buc, disappointed when I went on to the Link and saw Salmond, I didn't watch it, I assumed the link had something to do with the polls as your previous post was about percentages.
The leave campaign seems to have lost some momentum, between the suspension of campaigning due to the tragic death of the MP plus UKIP's sordid poster.
I wouldn't be surprised if your own figures were close to the mark. One thing I do know is that the result will be accepted. Unlike our own referendum where we still have the SNP leadership who seem unable to accept our decision and constantly are looking through their own eyes for half an excuse to go again. Their inability to accept the result is creating uncertainty in the country.

[TheDeeDon]

Sorry Buc, disappointed when I went on to the Link and saw Salmond, I didn't watch it, I assumed the link had something to do with the polls as your previous post was about percentages.
The leave campaign seems to have lost some momentum, between the suspension of campaigning due to the tragic death of the MP plus UKIP's sordid poster.
I wouldn't be surprised if your own figures were close to the mark. One thing I do know is that the result will be accepted. Unlike our own referendum where we still have the SNP leadership who seem unable to accept our decision and constantly are looking through their own eyes for half an excuse to go again. Their inability to accept the result is creating uncertainty in the country.

I don't think the result will be accepted by leave, unless they get under 40% of the vote. For what it's worth I have a feeling remain will be comfortably ahead with over 60% of the vote and also turnout may well be low.

[Buc]

Sorry Buc, disappointed when I went on to the Link and saw Salmond, I didn't watch it, I assumed the link had something to do with the polls as your previous post was about percentages.
The leave campaign seems to have lost some momentum, between the suspension of campaigning due to the tragic death of the MP plus UKIP's sordid poster.
I wouldn't be surprised if your own figures were close to the mark. One thing I do know is that the result will be accepted. Unlike our own referendum where we still have the SNP leadership who seem unable to accept our decision and constantly are looking through their own eyes for half an excuse to go again. Their inability to accept the result is creating uncertainty in the country.

You should have opened the link then Rochead ..

Its all about opinions and for me its hard for me just this once not to disagree with him.

[Rochead]

You should have opened the link then Rochead ..

Its all about opinions and for me its hard for me just this once not to disagree with him.

OK Buc, I gave in and opened the link, nothing to disagree with there, I think we all know that many though not all are hard working people, just like any other section of society. I believe the argument is about the open door policy. As it stands anyone from the EU is entitled to enter and stay, no restrictions, this must add greatly to the burden on councils and the NHS etc. I have no problem in allowing immigrants in who can bring added and needed skills but it must be controlled. That forms part off my reason for voting leave, having the ability to trade with any market and making our own decisions are the main reasons.
Of course it is about opinions, this forum gives us the opportunity to exchange them. 😊