O/T Diane Abbott

[rolymiller]

Yep good point about the dangers. The shop floor at the melting shop at templeboro used to scare the shyte out of me as an 18 year old. Luckily for me my job didn't involve me going on it too much. Also like you say there always were threats of redundancies and still are to this day. Not really a job which could be guaranteed for life for your kids even if they wanted it.

[KerrAvon]

I love the way that supporters of the left (and, to be fair, the right too) seek to claim credit for all that is good.

The National Health Service was created off the back of the Beveridge Report, which was written by a Liberal. Whilst a Labour government created the NHS, it has been continued by the numerous Conservative governments since 1948.

The first steps to a welfare state were taken by Winston Churchil (a Liberal at the time) and David Lloyd George in the form of the National Insurance Act 1911.

The system of compulsory and state provided education was introduced and driven by Liberal governments. As for tuition fees, let's not forget that they were introduced by Labour in 1998, primarily to pay for the expansion of higher education such as to open up opportunities for more people to take that route.

It was a Conservative government that promoted home ownership for everyone with it's right to buy scheme.

I'm sure that we are all grateful for the part that the unions have played to improve conditions for the working man, but it would be wrong to suggest that they have been a universal force for good. The 'closed shop' was little more than a legalised protection racket in which you had to pay your subs in order to keep your job. The mass picketing and violence that marred indutsrial disputes of the 60s, 70s and 80s were examples of an attempt to intimidate working people who exercised their right not to participate in strikes that were often called off the back of dubious 'show of hands' votes in mass meetings.

Returning to the subject of the OP: A vote for Labour is a vote for Diane Abbott to be put in charge of policing and the security services. All those Labour supporters on here who have admitted that she is a liability or similar should reflect upon that.

[mellowmiller]

I'm not really into politics but some of the stuff on here reminds me of something I saw recently which is hard to disagree with:

Labour: A bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they're poor.

Makes you think don't it?

[millmoormagic]

I'm not really into politics but some of the stuff on here reminds me of something I saw recently which is hard to disagree with:

Labour: A bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they're poor.

Makes you think don't it?

Your lack of interest in politics is shining bright with that statement to be honest MM

[Ellis_D]

Another embarrassing interview with Corbyn, its getting silly now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520

First time I've seen that. What an absolute joke. You would think after Liability Abbott had made such a balls up, that Corbyn would be on the ball himself. But no. He's can lead a protest, he's not fit to lead a country.

[millertop]

She's been pulled out due to health reason, yes I think that was the best thing to do but it should have been earlier

[Ellis_D]

She wasn't pulled out due to ill health. She was pulled out because even Corbyn, finally, realised that she was the gift that keeps on giving to the Conservative party.

She has always been an absolute idiot. I have seen her numerous times down the years speaking on political programmes and doing interviews and always wondered how the hell she held any sort of position of authority. Having read many forums and spoken to plenty of other people over the last ten years or so, there were plenty of other people who also realised. It seems that a lot of other people are now noticing that too.

[Ellis_D]

The interview here was yet again, truly embarrassing for the Labour party. Everyone voting Labour must realise that she is close to Corbyn, and she will be a key part of his cabinet if Corbyn wins. Not only as she is a friend, but also because she is black and female. Don't try to pretend that every government and shadow government is not desperately trying to make sure that ethnic minorities and females form a bigger part of their team than previously.

Diane Abbott just tries to bluff her way through this in the hope no-one will notice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ2l8Cs-Lc4

[caytonmiller]

The woman is a bloody idiot and if labour get in today god help us
Even Dermott the interviewer knew this that's why he was pushing her for a answer
Whoever votes labour should hang there head in shame and for the next 5 years you can stand in the corner and face the wall

[avondalemiller]

...........and D Abbott has increased her majority............ there must be some gullable poeple down in the big smoke...

.........talk about the blind leading the blind, hahaha, you couldn't make it up eh?

We think Labour in Rotherham could put a monkey forward and win......1st prize goes to Hackney......she polled over 42,000