The DERRY

[Deeranged]

What I like most is that because it didn't work out the way some people on here wanted, i.e. maintenance of the status quo in The Derry despite clear evidence of potential fatalities meaning a closure notice being served, it means the club bent over and took it. No acceptance that negotiations took place and a compromise was reached, a compromise driven by the club.

Life's a coont folks, sometimes things don't work out the way you want them to and you have to accept change. Best thing to do is accept the change and move on otherwise you just get all bitter and twisted.

[GB72]

Surges of exuberant fans running down to the front, danger to themselves etc. I'm not aware of any specific incident but at the time there was a fair bit of discussion on here. It was not universally accepted but the club were hauled over the coals about it and forced to make changes.

"Danger to themselves" 😂😂

Was the Club forced to make changes to the Cox?

Ah the secret meeting when they were hauled over the coals, you would think 30-40 suffered crush injuries...

Yet the Shankly is a sectarian pit when the OF visit..,,

Load of nonsense

[jdfc]

What I like most is that because it didn't work out the way some people on here wanted, i.e. maintenance of the status quo in The Derry despite clear evidence of potential fatalities meaning a closure notice being served, it means the club bent over and took it. No acceptance that negotiations took place and a compromise was reached, a compromise driven by the club.

Life's a coont folks, sometimes things don't work out the way you want them to and you have to accept change. Best thing to do is accept the change and move on otherwise you just get all bitter and twisted.

You should never just “accept” the power of argument is what has got things changed all through history, some can argue better than others, being a union rep most of my working life I know the power of arguing.

[Deeranged]

You should never just “accept” the power of argument is what has got things changed all through history, some can argue better than others, being a union rep most of my working life I know the power of arguing.

Arguing is why the unions have failed and are now virtually powerless. Discussion, compromise and agreement are what lead to progress, argument will simply put up unnecessary barriers.

[BCram]

"Danger to themselves" ����

Was the Club forced to make changes to the Cox?

Ah the secret meeting when they were hauled over the coals, you would think 30-40 suffered crush injuries...

Yet the Shankly is a sectarian pit when the OF visit..,,

Load of nonsense

OK. The load of nonsense is the idea that you can PATG for the MainStand and you can't do the same for the SE. IMO, It is not a load of nonsense that the club had to accept these conditions in their attempts to negotiate the continuing use of the SE. I am trying to suggest that the club should be trying to get a PATG option for the SE. Do you have anything constructive to put forward?

[Deeranged]

. Do you have anything constructive to put forward?

No

[jdfc]

Arguing is why the unions have failed and are now virtually powerless. Discussion, compromise and agreement are what lead to progress, argument will simply put up unnecessary barriers.

Argue, discuss, call it what you want, but don’t just accept

Unions failed ?, depends what you measure it against, can’t say my union has failed, it’s one of the strongest in the country, times move on and industries change, that’s not the unions fault, ask anyone at Michelin if they’re happy with settlement union got them, couldn’t save the factory, that’s due to economic changes around the world due to countries like China, but without a union the workforce could and would have walked away with a pittance, the union also fought for the workforce’s at places like NCR, Kestral, Levi’s to name but a few, you never hear people complain about the pay offs these people got, just a shame their jobs couldn’t be saved.

[BCram]

Argue, discuss, call it what you want, but don’t just accept

Unions failed ?, depends what you measure it against, can’t say my union has failed, it’s one of the strongest in the country, times move on and industries change, that’s not the unions fault, ask anyone at Michelin if they’re happy with settlement union got them, couldn’t save the factory, that’s due to economic changes around the world due to countries like China, but without a union the workforce could and would have walked away with a pittance, the union also fought for the workforce’s at places like NCR, Kestral, Levi’s to name but a few, you never hear people complain about the pay offs these people got, just a shame their jobs couldn’t be saved.

This has gone off topic a bit. The trade union movement is needed but this thread isn't the place to discuss it, IMO.

[Returnofrros]

OK. The load of nonsense is the idea that you can PATG for the MainStand and you can't do the same for the SE. IMO, It is not a load of nonsense that the club had to accept these conditions in their attempts to negotiate the continuing use of the SE. I am trying to suggest that the club should be trying to get a PATG option for the SE. Do you have anything constructive to put forward?

Constructive....Jesus b cram what's the point when people are saying "clear evidence of potential fatalities"......If those that are happy to accept the status quo can talk nonsense....let's all join in.

I'd love to see the mystery cctv footage that has apparently scared the bejesus oot of Deeranged.

[Returnofrros]

Oh and from what I've heard from family members there's been evidence of crushing at lessor gardens but I doubt the DAB council will serve a notice on themselves.