Leeds United - v - Arsenal ***Matchday Thread***

[klix]

To those Bellends...Read em and weep... Marcelo in the 5 nominations for FIFA coach of the year.... sink that in... when was the last time a Leeds manager has had a sniff at that... incredible when you look at the other nominations with the teams and resources they have at their disposal....

Bellends how old are you

You clearly do not understand any point that is a touch different to yours........
Clearly you cannot hold a debate and lack that intelligence
Strength,s and weaknesses in any person exist if you cannot see that it is pointless discussion

You come across as a typical blinkered leeds fan
Plenty of them and to be honest are embarrassing

[WTF11]

To those Bellends...Read em and weep... Marcelo in the 5 nominations for FIFA coach of the year.... sink that in... when was the last time a Leeds manager has had a sniff at that... incredible when you look at the other nominations with the teams and resources they have at their disposal....

I refer you to my posts #109 and #111. No name calling, despite your childish rants. I said I was trying to be more measured, both in terms of my comments and responses to the likes of you, Tich, and others, but as Klix observes, its hard to have anything like a rational discussion/conversation when all the response you get is childish name-calling.

No-ne (as far as I can see, is saying Bielsa is sh1te, the team are sh1te, and all is doom and gloom, but let's not fool ourselves as to the task in hand, nor the frailties of both the squad (depth, skill levels, ability etc) and our coach (stubborn, single-solution approach etc), none are perfect, no matter what nominations or increased squad value we might be able to point to.

BTW, for what its worth, the Coach of the Year award didn't exist before 2010, and has never been won by a coach from outside the top tiers of the various world leagues, so unlikely to have been in our grasp, n'est pas (although Bielsa was second n 2011!)?

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

To be human is to err - ofc MB has failings but he has many strengths too.
Yes our squad is a work in progress but so much work has been put in by Bielsa and team that is impressive. If we stay up it will surely get better still.
Bielsa for all his stubbornness is a visionary of the game and one of those that influenced modern tactics worldwide so he can’t be that bad.
Like many visionaries he seems somewhat blinkered to other methods but the solace in that is his method is to play good football.
He won’t he here forever so I just want to enjoy it worts and all whilst it lasts.

[klix]

To those Bellends...Read em and weep... Marcelo in the 5 nominations for FIFA coach of the year.... sink that in... when was the last time a Leeds manager has had a sniff at that... incredible when you look at the other nominations with the teams and resources they have at their disposal....

Is there a open top bus parade around leeds for that

No mention of Scott parker up at the FIRST attempt
No mention of Arteta a trophy after 6 months in to his first manager's job
Brendan Roger's the brilliant job he has done at Leicester

[whitestomper45]

Is there a open top bus parade around leeds for that

No mention of Scott parker up at the FIRST attempt
No mention of Arteta a trophy after 6 months in to his first manager's job
Brendan Roger's the brilliant job he has done at Leicester

The managers you mention in your strop that you say I overlooked;
Scott Parker; Yes managed to win promotion at first go...... after overseeing them relegated previous season
Colin ****ers side came straight back down
Wilder will get relegated in 2nd season
Why would I compare him to Rogers, he manages an established team who have won the league recently

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

I don't have "acolytes", not leading anything, my views are mine, and they change from time to time if there is evidence that supports such a change. You may disagree, you may have a more optimistic view, that's your prerogative, and I wouldn't criticise you for any of that, but it's shame you can't see objective criticism for what it is, just that, not doom-mongering. No-one, me included, is saying we WILL get relegated, just voicing concern over recent events, or perhaps like HO you would suggest that anything other than starry-eyed hero worship should be banned from the forum?

I have never suggested anyone should be banned - I sometimes call people out where they play the man not the ball and criticise the poster for holding certain views.

Ozleeds bleated like a schoolboy when people called him out for criticising posters. Debate suggests a degree of cordiality often these ‘discussions’ descend into playground arguments.

A few of us were happy with the Arsenal performance if not the result Oz called us deluded amongst other things and then when some responded took the him. All I asked was that he not take away the enjoyment of others.

Simples

[WTF11]

I have never suggested anyone should be banned - I sometimes call people out where they play the man not the ball and criticise the poster for holding certain views.

Ozleeds bleated like a schoolboy when people called him out for criticising posters. Debate suggests a degree of cordiality often these ‘discussions’ descend into playground arguments.

A few of us were happy with the Arsenal performance if not the result Oz called us deluded amongst other things and then when some responded took the him. All I asked was that he not take away the enjoyment of others.

Simples

Never said that anyone suggested an individual should be banned, but that views other than hero-worship were deemed unnecessary by some posters, you included (look back at #76 & #77. How can anyone "leave them be" (those who are "happy") if they post here with a differing view, ergo, don't post.

Can't see why making a comment about a poor performance, (and there were poor performances), is "taking away enjoyment". It doesn't take the experience away, simply casts a different light on it.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Never said that any suggested an individual should be banned, but that views other than hero-worship were deemed unnecessary by some posters, you included (look back at #76 & #77. How can anyone "leave them be" (those who are "happy") if they post here with a differing view, ergo, don't post.

Can't see why making a comment about a poor performance, (and there were poor performances), is "taking away enjoyment". It doesn't take the experience away, simply casts a different light on it.

Don’t mind different opinions so mind when people get slagged for stating them. I see pretty much the same key faults in MB that you do I just think the other positives outweigh that and not sure you do which is fine. I am unlikely to change your mind and visa versa.

[WTF11]

Don’t mind different opinions so mind when people get slagged for stating them. I see pretty much the same key faults in MB that you do I just think the other positives outweigh that and not sure you do which is fine. I am unlikely to change your mind and visa versa.

But you do/did (mind different opinions)! Your response to my post was essentially to suggest I shut up, can't see how your post can be interpreted any other way.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Yawn