what advice would you give RMT unioin

[grantzer]

The General Secretary of RMT Union could advise his members not to go on strike as thanks to the Covid pandemic their jobs are now threat due to people now working from home instead of commuting by train every day of their working week.
A reduction in members means less income for the RMT Union and a reduced salary for the General Secretary.
Incidentally the same article in the Sunday Times stated that the Deputy General Secretary of the RMT Union received an annual pay and pension package of £118,000.

He could,and maybe he did. What he is actually doing is his job,and presenting the views of his members.

And clearly the only reason people don't use trains is because they work from home. That can be the only possible reason.

Admittedly it is one of the reasons,but by no means the only reason.

Did that article mention the salary of the network rail boss btw? Or how much profit it made during the pandemic? How much it paid to its shareholders?

[islaydarkblue]

He could,and maybe he did. What he is actually doing is his job,and presenting the views of his members.

And clearly the only reason people don't use trains is because they work from home. That can be the only possible reason.

Admittedly it is one of the reasons,but by no means the only reason.

Did that article mention the salary of the network rail boss btw? Or how much profit it made during the pandemic? How much it paid to its shareholders?

Network Rail does not have shareholders and it does not pay a dividend.
Steve Montgomery who is the Chairman of the Rail Delivery Group was previously managing director of Scotrail. https://www.scotsman.com/news/transp...er-all-1509253

[BCram]

Network Rail is an arms length independently run body which is ultimately own by the Dept of Transport ie us the people. All the surplus they earn is reinvested in the rail network.

[grantzer]

Network Rail is an arms length independently run body which is ultimately own by the Dept of Transport ie us the people. All the surplus they earn is reinvested in the rail network.

Sorry. You are correct. I meant to ask about the companies who pay network rail for their services,and got a bit over excited.....my bad

[BCram]

Let's hope Islay can do his company house research and answer the points you made with reference to the rail franchise holders. Scottish Government has taken them back into public ownership so it might be revealing to compare the financial performance pre covid and in their last year of operation before being taken over by the Scottish Government. Think Nicola had no option but to step in but it's the comparison of financial performance which would be most interesting.

[islaydarkblue]

Let's hope Islay can do his company house research and answer the points you made with reference to the rail franchise holders. Scottish Government has taken them back into public ownership so it might be revealing to compare the financial performance pre covid and in their last year of operation before being taken over by the Scottish Government. Think Nicola had no option but to step in but it's the comparison of financial performance which would be most interesting.

Abelio who had the Scotrail contract are a Dutch owned company so it is doubtful if their annual accounts will be posted on the Companies House website.
Abelio’s contract for running Scotrail was due to end in 2023 but Nicola Sturgeon thought that her government could do a better job running Scotrail themselves.
Abelio did not put up a fight as they were probably delighted to get rid of running Scotrail and let the Scottish Government make a hash of running Scotrail themselves.
I have previously read in the Sunday Times newspaper that the Scottish Government should have run Scotrail in tandem with Abelio for the last year of Abelio’s contract so that there was a smooth handover.
You would have assumed that Nicola Sturgeon had learnt from her Scottish Government’s shambolic running of Calmac Ferries and CMAL and she should have left a private operator to run Scotrail.
However Nicola never learnt from her mistakes.
Earlier this week I discovered some interesting information which a member of the Scottish Government ferries unit based in Glasgow submitted to the Islands Connectivity Plan which is the new Scottish Government name for the Ferries Review.
However that is worth a separate topic on its own.

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Abelio who had the Scotrail contract are a Dutch owned company so it is doubtful if their annual accounts will be posted on the Companies House website.
Abelio’s contract for running Scotrail was due to end in 2023 but Nicola Sturgeon thought that her government could do a better job running Scotrail themselves.
Abelio did not put up a fight as they were probably delighted to get rid of running Scotrail and let the Scottish Government make a hash of running Scotrail themselves.
I have previously read in the Sunday Times newspaper that the Scottish Government should have run Scotrail in tandem with Abelio for the last year of Abelio’s contract so that there was a smooth handover.
You would have assumed that Nicola Sturgeon had learnt from her Scottish Government’s shambolic running of Calmac Ferries and CMAL and she should have left a private operator to run Scotrail.
However Nicola never learnt from her mistakes.
Earlier this week I discovered some interesting information which a member of the Scottish Government ferries unit based in Glasgow submitted to the Islands Connectivity Plan which is the new Scottish Government name for the Ferries Review.
However that is worth a separate topic on its own.

See when Abelio's franchise stopped, and The Scottish Government took over, did all the managerial and operational staff leave with Abelio and were they replaced by Scottish Government staff or was it effectively the same people that continued to manage day to day operations? How can you blame branding for such a perceived massive difference in how a company is performing?

Truth is Abelio were making as much of a balls of it as the Scottish Government is, there's actually little if any difference. See when you 'discovered some interesting information which a member of the Scottish Government ferries unit based in Glasgow submitted to the Islands Connectivity Plan' did you look to try to confirm the validity of the information at all? Or did you just assume your source was correct?

If it said in The Sunday Times that Dundee FC should have thrown the play off games against Kilmarnock, or that Islay Dark Bkue should throw himelf off the Tay Road Bridge, would you take these statements as absolute truth and would you jump? For someone that reputedly does his research you really don't have much of a clue do you?

[islaydarkblue]

See when Abelio's franchise stopped, and The Scottish Government took over, did all the managerial and operational staff leave with Abelio and were they replaced by Scottish Government staff or was it effectively the same people that continued to manage day to day operations? How can you blame branding for such a perceived massive difference in how a company is performing?

Truth is Abelio were making as much of a balls of it as the Scottish Government is, there's actually little if any difference. See when you 'discovered some interesting information which a member of the Scottish Government ferries unit based in Glasgow submitted to the Islands Connectivity Plan' did you look to try to confirm the validity of the information at all? Or did you just assume your source was correct?

If it said in The Sunday Times that Dundee FC should have thrown the play off games against Kilmarnock, or that Islay Dark Bkue should throw himelf off the Tay Road Bridge, would you take these statements as absolute truth and would you jump? For someone that reputedly does his research you really don't have much of a clue do you?

The information about the member of the Scottish Government ferries unit submission to the Islands Connectivity Plan was stated in the minutes of the Islay Community Council Ferry Committee meeting held on 8th June 2022.

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The information about the member of the Scottish Government ferries unit submission to the Islands Connectivity Plan was stated in the minutes of the Islay Community Council Ferry Committee meeting held on 8th June 2022.

Was it substantiated otherwise? Anyone can sit at a meeting and say what they like and it's minuted. Does it make it the unquestionable truth?

[frankiekopel]

My wife worked in NCR which for many years was a closed shop. This meant that every employee had to join a Union whether they wanted to or not. In the Cash a lot of the shop stewards got the better paid jobs.

closed shops,thankfully were made illegal in 1990,workers have a choice to join or not to join ,that's if their employer will recognise the union in the 1st place ,