O/T Trussed in Leader gone

[sawmiller]

Brilliant! Thanks for the introduction

55 Tufton Street - look it up

[animallittle3]

Lovely stitch up from the party to get them back to a more centrist facade and to be fair to them anything else woud have been the end of them. Very dire warnings of austerity #2 though. Even the library where old folk can go to keep warm will be closing down.

I think Sunak is a bit more to the right than he would like you to believe in my opinion pup .

I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a Tufton Street product by any means or an admirer of Brittania Unchained but he's somewhere between Rory Stewart and Kwasi Kwarteng defiantly .

Labour needs to get their economic programme nailed down and in the minds of the electorate .

I'd still expect them to win the next GE but if as looks likely Sunak and Hunt roll out austerity 2 and inflation drops just short of a GE , Sunak may ride a wave with a financial competence card in his hands that Labour with a non too ambitious programme may not be able to match .

[howdydoo]

Sunak and finance competence?

Hardly. He’s the reason we’re in this mess.

Brexit my arse.

[Redshank]

I think recent times tells us that whilst passionate left and right party members might fight to drag politics in their direction, the mainstream staus quo has many built in protections to stop that happening. Yes, mainstream norm is perhaps centre right rather than centre left which means that labour can only really come to power by taking very centrist positions, but at least we there is just as much mainstream resistence to the extreme positions to the likes of Truss, Farage and some of the other loons discussed on here as there are to Corbyn and the like. The party members on both sides tend to be left disappointed.

Onwards. Centre right we may be but without the general acceptance that we will all have to pay more (progressive preferably but what do I know?!) for the public services and H&SC that we would all like, we will just have to swallow the service cuts coming once again our way. We gets what we deserve at the end of the day.

Go easy on us Richie!

Sorry mate but the only way they could defeat Corbyn was by a constant barrage of crap in the media coupled with all the anti-semitism/racist lies. There was never any intention of an open debate on policies because they know that a lot of Corbyn's policies struck a chord with many people.

Here's an interesting watch for you. Don't dismiss it as hard left crap just watch with an open mind and then tell me he's wrong. It's an interesting story regardless...
https://novaramedia.com/2022/10/09/t...ary-stevenson/

[animallittle3]

Sunak and finance competence?

Hardly. He’s the reason we’re in this mess.

Brexit my arse.

Well he wrote a covid cheque out for £500bn I'll give you that .

Question is at that time with the top quaks in his lug holes , the data , the deaths and everyone not really knowing what we now know .

Did he have a choice ?

[animallittle3]

Sorry mate but the only way they could defeat Corbyn was by a constant barrage of crap in the media coupled with all the anti-semitism/racist lies. There was never any intention of an open debate on policies because they know that a lot of Corbyn's policies struck a chord with many people.

Here's an interesting watch for you. Don't dismiss it as hard left crap just watch with an open mind and then tell me he's wrong. It's an interesting story regardless...
https://novaramedia.com/2022/10/09/t...ary-stevenson/

They struck a chord , I was one of them , problem is middle England weren't having it and if 2019 told us anything it's that middle England will never have it .

The Red Wall weren't having it either but for possibly different reasons .

I've given it up mate , way too old for fighting battles I'll never win .

It is what it is and we have to vote for the party we dislike the least .

[howdydoo]

Yeah he did.

Throw £200b or £500b at it? He chose the latter. Lunacy.

Let’s pump more money into the HS & SC? Like the nonsense comment earlier:

Let’s deal head on with the waste first.

That’d be a start.


Personally I hope none of the two main parties are in power in 10 years time.

Time for something different.

[animallittle3]

Yeah he did.

Throw £200b or £500b at it? He chose the latter. Lunacy.

Let’s pump more money into the HS & SC? Like the nonsense comment earlier:

Let’s deal head on with the waste first.

That’d be a start.


Personally I hope none of the two main parties are in power in 10 years time.

Time for something different.

I wouldn't have liked to walk in the government's shoes when the pandemic hit and I'm far from a Tory .

Agree it's time for something different though .

Both party's are done for .

[howdydoo]

Who would?

Sunak as chancellor handed me and I mean handed me, £30k because I lost a few bookings on a holiday let. Stupid.

Let’s not mention the billions they handed out in interest free loans that will never be paid back. Furlough haha.

As for our wonderful HS. Why don’t we meet up and visit every house in South Yorkshire.

Nothing to do with pay. Let’s visit every house and see how many £millions of drugs are stashed in people’s medicine cabinets.

Social care??? What happened to families looking after their own and not charge the tax payer?

I’m really at a loss with it all.

[animallittle3]

Who would?

Sunak as chancellor handed me and I mean handed me, £30k because I lost a few bookings on a holiday let. Stupid.

Let’s not mention the billions they handed out in interest free loans that will never be paid back. Furlough haha.

As for our wonderful HS. Why don’t we meet up and visit every house in South Yorkshire.

Nothing to do with pay. Let’s visit every house and see how many £millions of drugs are stashed in people’s medicine cabinets.

Social care??? What happened to families looking after their own and not charge the tax payer?

I’m really at a loss with it all.

I must admit the Tory government paying me 80% of my salary to NOT go to work for 6 months did have me slapping my face and wondering if I had inadvertently taken early 90's acid .

Got a cracking tan mind , weather was wonderful that long summer .

Seriously though it's not the way I would have wanted given the poor sods that didn't make it through .