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    I heard this story on the radio this afternoon and thought: 'Blimey. That will cost the Tories a few votes'. Now that I've been able to watch the Johnson interview, I have a somewhat different view.

    I'm not one to defend politicians, but I think it clear that the 'outrage' at Johnson's actions is wholly manufactured. Straw clutching at it's finest.

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    I'm not one to defend politicians [/quote] unless they happen to be Tory ones
    & I think raging is still awiting your answer re John Smith from yesterday btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I heard this story on the radio this afternjon and thought: 'Blimey. That will cost the Tories a few votes'. Now that I've been able to watch the Johnson interview, I have a somewhat different view.

    I'm not one to defend politicians, but I think it clear that the 'outrage' at Johnson's actions is wholly manufactured. Claw clutching at it's finest.
    Outrage or not why did Johnson put the interviewers phone in his pocket without even looking at it. He didn’t have a clue how to answer the question. All bluster and some people fall for it and no it won’t cost the Tories any votes. Teflon Tony isn’t a patch on Boris Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godsend.F.C. View Post
    Outrage or not why did Johnson put the interviewers phone in his pocket without even looking at it. He didn’t have a clue how to answer the question. All bluster and some people fall for it and no it won’t cost the Tories any votes. Teflon Tony isn’t a patch on Boris Johnson.
    Definitely outrage and definitely manufactured.

    Johnson was trying to do what politicians try to do, which is to answer a different question to that which is being asked. The reporter was trying to do what reporters try to do, which is to create a story.

    It was a very odd thing for Johnson to do to put the phone in his pocket. The easy thing to do would have been to look at the picture and make sympathetic noises, in which case the story would have been that he made sympathetic noises.

    As it is, we don't really know what happened at the LGI, because the hospital will undoubtedly be bound by patient confidentiality. I think that care in the the NHS can be very very poor at times, but I am also reminded of the Virgin Train story created by Corbyn and his team a few years ago.

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    So we’re the lies about Matt Hancocks aide being assaulted manufactured or a genuine mistake. Kuenssberg was quick to put it on social media and quick to remove her tweets and apologise. She must have trusted the people that gave her information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godsend.F.C. View Post
    So we’re the lies about Matt Hancocks aide being assaulted manufactured or a genuine mistake. Kuenssberg was quick to put it on social media and quick to remove her tweets and apologise. She must have trusted the people that gave her information.
    Well here's the thing, Godsend. Yesterday, I was looking at a case where a witness to an incident gives a clear and detailed account of what happened. She was well placed to see and completely independent. The CCTV of the incident shows that she is also completely wrong.

    Labour has spun the story with yet more manufactured outrage and, unsurprisingly, The Guardian has picked it up and run with. The Sun has, unsurprisingly run with a different angle - that Momentum had put together a rent a mob to 'kick off' for the media:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...-hospital/amp/

    What appears to be beyond doubt is that a mob turned up at the hospital and the aide was struck in the face. I haven't been able to find any detail about who from the Tory Party, if anyone, put the punch story out, but maybe they were like my witness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Well here's the thing, Godsend. Yesterday, I was looking at a case where a witness to an incident gives a clear and detailed account of what happened. She was well placed to see and completely independent. The CCTV of the incident shows that she is also completely wrong.

    Labour has spun the story with yet more manufactured outrage and, unsurprisingly, The Guardian has picked it up and run with. The Sun has, unsurprisingly run with a different angle - that Momentum had put together a rent a mob to 'kick off' for the media:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...-hospital/amp/

    What appears to be beyond doubt is that a mob turned up at the hospital and the aide was struck in the face. I haven't been able to find any detail about who from the Tory Party, if anyone, put the punch story out, but maybe they were like my witness?
    I suggest you look at the footage again,this time without your Tory glasses on
    Struck in the face?
    Perhaps you would care to reconsider that claim
    Last edited by Exiletyke; 10-12-2019 at 06:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Definitely outrage and definitely manufactured.

    Johnson was trying to do what politicians try to do, which is to answer a different question to that which is being asked. The reporter was trying to do what reporters try to do, which is to create a story.

    It was a very odd thing for Johnson to do to put the phone in his pocket. The easy thing to do would have been to look at the picture and make sympathetic noises, in which case the story would have been that he made sympathetic noises.

    Johnson was trying to do what politicians try to do, which is to answer a different question to that which is being asked. The reporter was trying to do what reporters try to do, which is to create a story.


    True to form Kerr soften any criticism of a Tory but finish off with your customary dig at Labour
    Do you still maintain you're not a Tory?

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    Guess which one of these three will be running the country on Friday 12th December








    It's a puppet.

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    I know NHS hospitals are bad but they don't make you sleep on the floor, this will probably be a Labour activist staging a pic.

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