O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[Trickytreesreds]

Sorry Tricky, that’s just one of your classic responses. ‘I hope you’re not a history teacher blah...astonishing blah...Neville blah...Green Party blah...’ and then, best of all, ‘you have quoted statistics...not facts about that conflict’.

We’ll invariably interpret history and even current events differently Tricky. We have an entirely different outlook and perspective. However, just because the facts I’ve quoted don’t suit your ‘agenda’ it doesn’t mean they’re not facts and I have better things to do than argue with someone who fails to understand the concept of ‘fact’.

Perhaps you could point out the factual inaccuracies I have made about a) the length of both ‘campaigns’ and b) the number of deaths amongst British personnel. Until then...

The figures you quote, are not inaccurate.
But the circumstances are.

Thatcher HAD to take us to War, in response to an attack on this nation.

Blair took as to war, to suit his own political gains with lies.

Irrespective how many died, who moralistically was correct and who committed a war crime?
It isn't rocket science, but I suspect that because Thatcher and Tories were in power. You cannot grudgingly give credit to a conservative government, doing the right thing.
The other day, you said you was a proud national? I think that nationality is par with Neville Chamberlain and not Winston Churchill.

[Geoff Parkstone]

rA: I suspect its not the facts that you select, but rather the facts you choose to ignore that frustrates Tricky.

[swaledale]

rA: I suspect its not the facts that you select, but rather the facts you choose to ignore that frustrates Tricky.

You must be dumb if you think Thicky recognises anything factual!

[Andy_Faber]

I'd just popped on to make an on-topic comment but we are so far OFF topic here I'm not sure anyone would notice. Everyone (but me) appears to have made their views clear now on the latest O/T issue so time for a break.

[swaledale]

What is conveniently overlooked regarding the Falkland's is that the Tory government had downgraded the defence resources for the islands meaning they were vulnerable to a possible attack and it was well known that the Argentine President was looking for something to boost his flagging presidency. If it had been a Labour Government caught with its "pants down" there would have been hell to pay!

On top of that diplomatically the Uk Government had been making noises about power sharing with Argentina, viewing the Falklands as an expensive liability which they would like to be rid of.

Thatcher certainly ignored any option of a peaceful negotiation with Argentina and took a risk which paid off politically, if not for those who lost their lives. The irony is that if Galtieri hadn't invaded, it is more than likely that some power sharing agreement with a view to handing over ownership would have happened.

Then there is the bigger question s to why the UK should have "sovereign" territory thousands of miles away in the South Atlantic and why UK taxpayers should foot the bill for defending it? Its a an historical anachronism and I for one think that in the modern world one we should be relinquishing.

[Trickytreesreds]

Imagine my shock

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...OVZiBUVZpvAEX4

[swaledale]

Imagine my shock

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...OVZiBUVZpvAEX4

Case proven I think as regards Thicky recognising anything factual

[Trickytreesreds]

HMG plows on with AZ driving down deaths.
However, Macrons political bitterness leaves the EU public dying. It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...vaccine-scheme

[Geoff Parkstone]

Have it your way, I'm not bothered

[macstheman]

Did Galtieri cause Covid??