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    Of course I was just 15 and admittedly had a limited social circle, but I didn’t know anyone who would have voted against independence.

    I wasn’t taking Huns into account though.

    My point remains the same.
    As a youngster, I thought it was only a matter of 5 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    Well, Sturgeon's type of independence anyway.

    Loathed though I am to nurture hope again, perhaps we can try a different way.

    I'll vote for Kate Forbes's SNP.
    Would you really prefer a Kate Forbes style Scotland just because you hate gay people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeeDon View Post
    Would you really prefer a Kate Forbes style Scotland just because you hate gay people?

    Hating them and refusing to join in with a fantasy are two different things.


    Anyway, we have still to find out what a Kate Forbes style Scotland will look like.

    One that believes in realism would be a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    Hating them and refusing to join in with a fantasy are two different things.


    Anyway, we have still to find out what a Kate Forbes style Scotland will look like.

    One that believes in realism would be a start.
    I guess we will hear more over the next few weeks but it sounds like a Kate Forbes style Scotland, at least in the short-term, will place more focus on the economy/business and dare I say it competent Government and less emphasis on equality and social justice issues. It sounds like she will not be battering everyone over the head about independence on a daily basis but rather try to grow an independence majority through her approach to Government, also knowing that over time demographics will favour the independence numbers as well. My guess is she will pick her fights with Westminster much more carefully rather than looking to engineer disagreements at every possible opportunity.

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    Good thing too.

    A Scotland where everyone pulls their weight is essential.

    From each according to their ability etc.

    Not just a heap of wasters with their hands out.

    Before everyone jumps on me for that, it benefited the Labour Party for years and years to keep folk dependent.

    Scotland has to pay its way, not the English Tory way but it has to pay its way regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    Good thing too.

    A Scotland where everyone pulls their weight is essential.

    From each according to their ability etc.

    Not just a heap of wasters with their hands out.

    Before everyone jumps on me for that, it benefited the Labour Party for years and years to keep folk dependent.

    Scotland has to pay its way, not the English Tory way but it has to pay its way regardless.
    Good points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    Hating them and refusing to join in with a fantasy are two different things.


    Anyway, we have still to find out what a Kate Forbes style Scotland will look like.

    One that believes in realism would be a start.
    A realism rooted in the Old Testament?

    As I say, if Forbes is professional enough to park her fundamentalist bigotry then crack on.
    But I've met Free Churchers.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post

    From each according to their ability etc.
    Did you miss out the second, more important, part of that line for a reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InversneckieDob View Post
    Did you miss out the second, more important, part of that line for a reason?
    Yes because needs seem to have grown somewhat.

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    Aye, I'm not keen on religion myself.

    But the Quakers didn't do too badly in the long term scheme of things, so there's hope.

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