The Corona Virus

[sinkov]

In the old days it took years sometimes to identify side effects, thalidomide took from 1957 to 1961 for the disastrous effects on the foetus to be tracked back to it. They are much better at it now.

This is indeed the problem with long term side effects OC, they take a long time to become apparent.

[oldcolner]

This is indeed the problem with long term side effects OC, they take a long time to become apparent.

The thalidomide side effects were not long term, you just needed to take a dose in the first trimester and wait to term to see the deformity. What took the time was linking what might be an unusual child that could occur naturally, to the drug they took 6 months earlier. The fact that a GP would only see one such patient meant it took a while for them to realise there were large numbers of these, as most births then were at home.
Long term side effects are effects that flow from taking a drug for months or years not a single dose.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I know Supersub6, I'll leave it alone now.

[oldcolner]

I know Supersub6, I'll leave it alone now.

Roll up folks Place your bets now.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I am rather fond of my "uninformed opinion", thank you very much.

[oldcolner]

I am rather fond of my "uninformed opinion", thank you very much.

We know BT and sort of love you for it.

[sinkov]

We know BT and sort of love you for it.

You speak for yourself OC.

[Norder]

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this is no Joke...big pharma, rushes out, at unprecidented off the scale speed - a genetic mRna £Vaccine£...a type that has never before been licensed for use in Human beings...It was only a few weeks ago that they were looking at results from their questionable trials, for a vaccine that up until now - took many many years of research and Testing to finalise, with only a tiny hope of a positive result - and the fact that this (mRNA-DNA copy) is a gentic delivery system that will hijack cells and build a viral attack so as to force the bodys natural defece system into overdrive, is to me...a manipulation too far, and being that as we know, this "Virus" ( as others) is only a danger to a small percentage of people - looking to inject everyone - is very scary, and should be to all. Thats my view....Viruses come and go, they have done for millions of years, the body knows that, we're connected to it, are full of viruses, hundreds of millions of them - and if our immune system is working well, then Why would we seek to alter it...Force it into action, stressing it ? damaging it ? - replacing it with something foreign, that who knows, could destroy the natural sending us (at best) to complete reliance on fake pharmecuticals....and then, there's those ill side effects. Again...am just airing my own feelings, as whats best for others is down to them alone to decide...for them to do their own research, from all angles - ask the questions, what is it / in it etc..All I know, is that I'd Never Ever advocate a potential pandoras box of uncertainty to any, especially when...as we've been told, and can see...to the sure vast majority - the alternative, is of little to no great risk.

[oldcolner]

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this is no Joke...big pharma, rushes out, at unprecidented off the scale speed - a genetic mRna £Vaccine£...a type that has never before been licensed for use in Human beings...It was only a few weeks ago that they were looking at results from their questionable trials, for a vaccine that up until now - took many many years of research and Testing to finalise, with only a tiny hope of a positive result - and the fact that this (mRNA-DNA copy) is a gentic delivery system that will hijack cells and build a viral attack so as to force the bodys natural defece system into overdrive, is to me...a manipulation too far, and being that as we know, this "Virus" ( as others) is only a danger to a small percentage of people - looking to inject everyone - is very scary, and should be to all. Thats my view....Viruses come and go, they have done for millions of years, the body knows that, we're connected to it, are full of viruses, hundreds of millions of them - and if our immune system is working well, then Why would we seek to alter it...Force it into action, stressing it ? damaging it ? - replacing it with something foreign, that who knows, could destroy the natural sending us (at best) to complete reliance on fake pharmecuticals....and then, there's those ill side effects. Again...am just airing my own feelings, as whats best for others is down to them alone to decide...for them to do their own research, from all angles - ask the questions, what is it / in it etc..All I know, is that I'd Never Ever advocate a potential pandoras box of uncertainty to any, especially when...as we've been told, and can see...to the sure vast majority - the alternative, is of little to no great risk.

Are you working for the Russians too Norder. What a load of scaremongering bull. Your views they may be but they have no scientific basis. Putin will love you though.


Your comments in bold are absolute nonsense.
New Flu vaccines are done at this speed every year, it’s rare for the same vaccine to be used more than one year.
What is questionable about the trials 22000 people have had it flu - vaccines only have 5000 The MHRA check these and will not approve anything that is unsafe or ineffective. The volume of paperwork would fill your bedroom.
Will hijack cells - no that’s what viruses do, the vaccine stimulates antibodies and T cells to stop that.
Contrary to your view the immune systems for most people cannot deal with this virus, and the virus can overstimulate the immune system to attack their bodies nerves, brain, heart and more. I’ve been there after an infection and lost all sensation of touch, could hardly walk, lost my sense of balance, could not speak or swallow. Off for 5 months to recover but never been quite the same.
Your no risk alternative is 1 in 60 of 70million people with long COVID and 1.5million more dead in 9 months.
You complain about the speed -surely this is what the world is waiting for and needs it as fast as possible. How long would you like to wait then?

[Norder]

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this is no Joke...big pharma, rushes out, at unprecidented off the scale speed - a genetic mRna £Vaccine£...a type that has never before been licensed for use in Human beings...It was only a few weeks ago that they were looking at results from their questionable trials, for a vaccine that up until now - took many many years of research and Testing to finalise, with only a tiny hope of a positive result - and the fact that this (mRNA-DNA copy) is a gentic delivery system that will hijack cells and build a viral attack so as to force the bodys natural defece system into overdrive, is to me...a manipulation too far, and being that as we know, this "Virus" ( as others) is only a danger to a small percentage of people - looking to inject everyone - is very scary, and should be to all. Thats my view....Viruses come and go, they have done for millions of years, the body knows that, we're connected to it, are full of viruses, hundreds of millions of them - and if our immune system is working well, then Why would we seek to alter it...Force it into action, stressing it ? damaging it ? - replacing it with something foreign, that who knows, could destroy the natural sending us (at best) to complete reliance on fake pharmecuticals....and then, there's those ill side effects. Again...am just airing my own feelings, as whats best for others is down to them alone to decide...for them to do their own research, from all angles - ask the questions, what is it / in it etc..All I know, is that I'd Never Ever advocate a potential pandoras box of uncertainty to any, especially when...as we've been told, and can see...to the sure vast majority - the alternative, is of little to no great risk.

What a load of scaremongering bull. Your views they may be but they have no scientific basis. Putin will love you though.


Your comments in bold are absolute nonsense.
New Flu vaccines are done at this speed every year, it’s rare for the same vaccine to be used more than one year.
Will hijack cells - no that’s what viruses do, the vaccine stimulates antibodies and T cells to stop that.

look colner - I can hear and see what you say on the BBC or governemt websites etc.....and your free to repeat it, but I think you should perhaps try looking a little deeper - where you'll find that your above comment is a truly uninformed one, the vaccines made by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, make copies of the viral spile protein, viral fakes that cause a reaction, how can they do that without hijacking or taking over the immune system - they can't , it's their whole point - they're cloaked until they get in side the cell, then they grow the spiike protein - unlike the non-replicating viral vectors from Oxford/AstraZeneca - but were talking the virally derived, self-amplifying RNA Pfizer vac...Aren't we - and finally...this is Absolutely not a conventional vaccine - as before, Pharma Is Not producing proteins to do the work, basic knowledge at this point - no ?


Colner . I only responded because of your derogatory and misinformed response...all the above and earlier comment, is easily verifiable. I wouldn't post otherwise.


and...I really dont want to communicate any further response with you, if you could try and steer away, much appreciated

Thank You.