Callum Butcher

[Arabdownsouth]

What a crock of ****e.

I agree

[arab1970]

What a crock of ****e.

What a well thought-out retort! Thank you for the debate

[arab1970]

Dundee United’s Calum Butcher could face retrospective punishment as the Scottish FA reviews a potential red card challenge on Celtic’s David Turnbull.

Butcher received a yellow card from referee Don Robertson for the foul during the match at Tannadice on Sunday, which United lost 3-0.

The incident is being reviewed and if three former referees are in agreement that the challenge instead merited a red card, the SFA’s compliance officer will issue the player with a notice of complaint.

That notice of complaint would come with the fixed offer of a ban, or Butcher and United could decide to argue their case at a disciplinary hearing.

[arab1970]

Totally deserves to be banned btw once again he let the team down

[stokearab]

Yes he is, he dosnt ever want the ball in tight spaces and isnt brave on the ball thats a form of cowardice

As for the tackle he went in with excessive force and purposely kept his foot up with his leg straight, anybody who has played knows that when you want to "do someone"

Agreed. And I'd say that about a player I rated highly as well as saying it about that challenge. Getting contact on the ball is irrelevant and ADS you should know that. Excessive force, out of control, high, dangerous, it's a red all day every day. I once put a similar tackle in on a player and he attacked me after the final whistle!

Anyhow, I think what happened was that Butcher watched our tippy tappy players failing to put put a glove on the opposition, found it frustrating as we all did, and decided to show them how it's done. A red wouldn't have changed the result but would probably have affected the goals conceded. And ruled him out from further game time thus further weakening the managers options.

Ironic because despite my reservations about the player I think he should have started v Motherwell.

It's interesting that a player divides the support so much. Some worship the ground he walks on.

[Arabdownsouth]

Agreed. And I'd say that about a player I rated highly as well as saying it about that challenge. Getting contact on the ball is irrelevant and ADS you should know that. Excessive force, out of control, high, dangerous, it's a red all day every day. I once put a similar tackle in on a player and he attacked me after the final whistle!

Anyhow, I think what happened was that Butcher watched our tippy tappy players failing to put put a glove on the opposition, found it frustrating as we all did, and decided to show them how it's done. A red wouldn't have changed the result but would probably have affected the goals conceded. And ruled him out from further game time thus further weakening the managers options.

Ironic because despite my reservations about the player I think he should have started v Motherwell.

It's interesting that a player divides the support so much. Some worship the ground he walks on.

Whatever your opinion on the tackle, I still don't support folk throwing words like coward at people and using the Internet to do it. I wonder if he'd tell Callum to his face that he's a coward? I suspect not

[stokearab]

and chances are he would have ran an even bigger risk off getting sent off with the more time he had on the pitch .

There's nothing wrong with having hard players in your side who get stuck in , in fact all teams need them .

But GOOD hard players get stuck in but are also disciplined .. poor or average hard players just dive in or react and unfortunately Butcher falls in to the latter category for me .

We don't seem to have hard fair players in midfield at all, we're soft, then we don't have enough skilful players to compensate for the lack of grit. It's a problem.

Gogic not getting game time at Hibs would be the type we need. Hard and skilful.
Tbh I think we've been signing the wrong type of players for a long time on this. Edwards and McMann see us heading in the right direction but we need more warriors like them. We're far too easily bullied.

[Arabdownsouth]

Totally deserves to be banned btw once again he let the team down

Did he shag your missus or something?

[arab1970]

We don't seem to have hard fair players in midfield at all, we're soft, then we don't have enough skilful players to compensate for the lack of grit. It's a problem.

Gogic not getting game time at Hibs would be the type we need. Hard and skilful.
Tbh I think we've been signing the wrong type of players for a long time on this. Edwards and McMann see us heading in the right direction but we need more warriors like them. We're far too easily bullied.

Not sure I'd agree with that, best we have played this season is with Levitt, Harkes and Fuchs in midfield, you wouldnt say 2 out of that 3 were anywhere near warriors

[TerryTheTerror]

What a well thought-out retort! Thank you for the debate

Phuxache, it's pretty obvious I'm joking, isn't it?