O/T The meaningful vote.

[animallittle3]

Fu****G hell Animal are you really seriouse.
Now he cant be resind that last minuet.

Why wouldn't I be serious ?

One option is the deal signed off by the UK and the EU and no other deal is available or prepared to be negotiated on by the EU .

The other is clearly stated on the act passed by parliament last year .

There are no other options .

[upthecolliers]

Why wouldn't I be serious ?

One option is the deal signed off by the UK and the EU and no other deal is available or prepared to be negotiated on by the EU .

The other is clearly stated on the act passed by parliament last year .

There are no other options .

Surely Animal a no deal would be catastrophic to the country we have been trading with the EU for decades theres 1,000s of firms up and down the country that are now interlinked with the EU and trade to and fro on a daliy basis, many other firms outside the EU have made Great Britain a base to trade within the EU because its friction free. Think about the life saving drugs we inport from the EU cancer drugs for one but theres hundreds more, my wife who suffers from cancer but is on the mend was told by the farmacy whereshe gets her drugs that becouse of the uncertanty she now gets then for 2 weeks at a time and not 1 month, anyway thats my take.

[animallittle3]

If we had another referendum [or peoples vote as it is laughingly called] & the result was still to leave what would we then do, as the same issues would still confront us or are you assuming the result would be to remain [assuming you would want remain on the ballot paper
When will you realise that we have voted already
You make reference to ill informed comments on this forum please advise what they are & then enlighten us all what we should know,otherwise it leaves us all uncertain what you mean

Psssst ......... exile


Ever wondered why the big multinationals do their accounting through Luxembourg ?

[animallittle3]

Surely Animal a no deal would be catastrophic to the country we have been trading with the EU for decades theres 1,000s of firms up and down the country that are now interlinked with the EU and trade to and fro on a daliy basis, many other firms outside the EU have made Great Britain a base to trade within the EU because its friction free. Think about the life saving drugs we inport from the EU cancer drugs for one but theres hundreds more, my wife who suffers from cancer but is on the mend was told by the farmacy whereshe gets her drugs that becouse of the uncertanty she now gets then for 2 weeks at a time and not 1 month, anyway thats my take.

I share those concerns too Mr C which is why the people in the event of a vote offered to them to break this deadlock should vote for May's deal .

[upthecolliers]

I share those concerns too Mr C which is why the people in the event of a vote offered to them to break this deadlock should vote for May's deal .

Im just going to say this Animal and then have done fo time being. Mays Deal was werse than stoping in.

[lk311]

Anyone considered that all this was part of a long term plan to not leave?
Far fetched maybe but picture this:

May flecks about and makes a total mess of it.
Invites cross party collaboration
Parties don’t work together
Proposal can’t get through Parliament
May retracts article 50 and blames Corbyn etc for refusing to work together meaning an agreeable deal can’t be reached.

[Exiletyke]

Anyone considered that all this was part of a long term plan to not leave?
Far fetched maybe but picture this:

May flecks about and makes a total mess of it.
Invites cross party collaboration
Parties don’t work together
Proposal can’t get through Parliament
May retracts article 50 and blames Corbyn etc for refusing to work together meaning an agreeable deal can’t be reached.

Pretty much agree with that Ik all planned from day 1 after result of 2016 referendum
& I posted this last September which is a variation on your theme


Here's my take on our current position

May is a remainer at heart
May is making a botch of things with the Tory Grandees pulling the strings
Thatcher thought she was in control but in the end she wasn't
May [& the nomark Gove] keep reiterating the mantra that accepting the peoples wishes must honoured
There are forces at work promoting the idea that the people should decide on the outcome of the negotiations with the "EU" with a vote [referendum] on the outcome
Options being
accept the deal [whatever it is]
accept no deal
REMAIN
If by this means the vote is to remain, it will be the will of the people thus absolving our politicians of any responsibility which I believe is the end game

[KerrAvon]

Pretty much agree with that Ik all planned from day 1 after result of 2016 referendum
& I posted this last September which is a variation on your theme


Here's my take on our current position

May is a remainer at heart
May is making a botch of things with the Tory Grandees pulling the strings
Thatcher thought she was in control but in the end she wasn't
May [& the nomark Gove] keep reiterating the mantra that accepting the peoples wishes must honoured
There are forces at work promoting the idea that the people should decide on the outcome of the negotiations with the "EU" with a vote [referendum] on the outcome
Options being
accept the deal [whatever it is]
accept no deal
REMAIN
If by this means the vote is to remain, it will be the will of the people thus absolving our politicians of any responsibility which I believe is the end game

An awful lot of moving parts.

Why did the 'Tory Grandees' allow Cameron to include a further referendum in the Tory manifesto?
How did the 'Tory Grandees' know that Parlaiment would back the referendum bill.
How did the 'Tory Grandees' know that Corbett would have Labour voting againt the May deal.

I love a conspiracy theory, but this one is a bit cr*p.

[animallittle3]

Im just going to say this Animal and then have done fo time being. Mays Deal was werse than stoping in.

Well it was the best deal for me on account the other was crashing out on WTO terms or the possibility of having to stay in .

Not saying it was a good deal because it wasn't but that's what she managed to attain so that is that .

[animallittle3]

Anyone considered that all this was part of a long term plan to not leave?
Far fetched maybe but picture this:

May flecks about and makes a total mess of it.
Invites cross party collaboration
Parties don’t work together
Proposal can’t get through Parliament
May retracts article 50 and blames Corbyn etc for refusing to work together meaning an agreeable deal can’t be reached.

It's certainly makes you think IK311 that this was the game plan right from the moment the referendum result came through .