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[57vintage]

What did you expect them to do? Lie in court after the dick had admitted to the party that the accusations against him were true, yet still pursued a defamation case against Murdoch’s lot? Why would people perjure themselves in court (as Sheridan was later proven to have done, the arrogant wânker) when they knew that he was lying? And then calling them scabs? The worst insult that a socialist can suffer. That finished the SSP, and socialist representation in Holyrood. Now we have “progressives”. Be still my beating heart.

[stewarty27]

What did you expect them to do? Lie in court after the dick had admitted to the party that the accusations against him were true, yet still pursued a defamation case against Murdoch’s lot? Why would people perjure themselves in court (as Sheridan was later proven to have done, the arrogant wânker) when they knew that he was lying? And then calling them scabs? The worst insult that a socialist can suffer. That finished the SSP, and socialist representation in Holyrood. Now we have “progressives”. Be still my beating heart.

I'd have thought damage limitation to the party. Don't get me wrong Sheridan was the catalyst for the demise of the SSP. I don't know but I suspect the tensions were there long before the NoW story broke. Passing on "covert videos to the NoW of Sheridan confessing are not the actions of a committed socialist rather a huge personal struggle going on to remove Sheridan at any cost. And that cost was paid big time,

[57vintage]

Rather than removing Sheridan, members were trying to stop the SSP becoming a single personality cult.

When he admitted to the SSP that the NoW had got it right, he was unable to leave it at that. That meant that all the allegations had to be examined in court and individuals involved were going to have their personal lives exposed to the public, and their reputations trashed, including that of one of the leading members of the Aberdeen Stop the War coalition. That was sickening.

You cannot condone lying in court, nor Sheridan’s betrayal of SSP members to whom he had confessed and who he eventually turned against by lying to try to save his own skin.

I see that he’s now in Alba with the other sèx pest creepy cûnts.

[TheDeeDon]

The SSP was the nearest I ever got to joining a political party. I went to a meeting with a view to joining, as I sort of knew one of the Aberdeen party members, might even have been the leader up here, Scott Sutherland (I'm sure that was his name)
Came away from the meeting very disillusioned. I mind I was asked by someone why I had never bought my council house, which I was very opposed against and still am.
Hadn't realised Sheridan had joined Alba, but I suppose it fits.

[57vintage]

The SSP was the nearest I ever got to joining a political party. I went to a meeting with a view to joining, as I sort of knew one of the Aberdeen party members, might even have been the leader up here, Scott Sutherland (I'm sure that was his name)
Came away from the meeting very disillusioned. I mind I was asked by someone why I had never bought my council house, which I was very opposed against and still am.
Hadn't realised Sheridan had joined Alba, but I suppose it fits.

Scott is still active on the left, and is a Dons fan too. I bump into him infrequently in town. I haven’t been a member of any political party since the only one I ever joined folded the weekend the Dons won the league in 1980. Nothing tempts me.

[TheDeeDon]

Scott is still active on the left, and is a Dons fan too. I bump into him infrequently in town. I haven’t been a member of any political party since the only one I ever joined folded the weekend the Dons won the league in 1980. Nothing tempts me.

I thought he was a hun! Memory playing tricks on me.
When I knew him he was going through Uni trying to become a social worker. We had loons at school together too.

[stewarty27]

Scott is still active on the left, and is a Dons fan too. I bump into him infrequently in town. I haven’t been a member of any political party since the only one I ever joined folded the weekend the Dons won the league in 1980. Nothing tempts me.

You a Trot Min ?

[57vintage]

You a Trot Min ?

I dinna ken, min. Too many labels, too much factionalism. People’s Front of Judea, or Judean People’s Front, and that?

Marx is the DNA, like the car on my driveway owes much to the likes of the 1904 De Dion Bouton, but the re-interpretations and situational applications have to be taken into account. I leave the blinkered, one-size-fits-all centralising paternalism to dull, unimaginative institutions like the current régime in Edinburgh which has few principles beyond the obvious, and even that seems to be on the back burner.

[stewarty27]

I dinna ken, min. Too many labels, too much factionalism. People’s Front of Judea, or Judean People’s Front, and that?

Marx is the DNA, like the car on my driveway owes much to the likes of the 1904 De Dion Bouton, but the re-interpretations and situational applications have to be taken into account. I leave the blinkered, one-size-fits-all centralising paternalism to dull, unimaginative institutions like the current régime in Edinburgh which has few principles beyond the obvious, and even that seems to be on the back burner.

It was said tongue in cheek. Reason being you mentioned you joined a party late 70s 80s. And I immediately though WRP or the "Trots" as they used to be called no offence intended. Your reference to the People’s Front of Judea, or Judean People’s Front, was exactly the point I was trying to make about the SSP how left wing groups tend to eat themselves, The current regime in Embra is what the people of Scotland voted for including myself but TBH its a bit of a Hobsons choice given the state of the opposition. I'm not a member of any party tho have been in Labour and the SNP. These days I take most of my inspiration from the Common Weal and the writings of Robin McAlpine and the likes. I strongly believe the status quo is no longer an option for Scotland but Independence is the most socialist chance we have. PS get yersel a new car

[Mason89]

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