Charlie Cresswell Dilemma ?

[whitestomper45]

If some of you are unable to see how inflammatory to ream spirit his Dad posting CC in a Millwall shirt… , there's plenty of him in White he could have used. His Dad/Agent should keep his mouth shut about team selection. Charlie should do likewise, he’s not our best CH. Probably needs another loan but due to an injury prone Cooper it doesn’t suit the club at this time. Let’s put our promotion chances on hold to placate Charlie.

[WTF11]

If some of you are unable to see how inflammatory to ream spirit his Dad posting CC in a Millwall shirt… , there's plenty of him in White he could have used. His Dad/Agent should keep his mouth shut about team selection. Charlie should do likewise, he’s not our best CH. Probably needs another loan but due to an injury prone Cooper it doesn’t suit the club at this time. Let’s put our promotion chances on hold to placate Charlie.

Not suggesting any such thing WS, simply that a dad looking out for his son isn't the most unlikely thing in the world (especially given his connections/job), and neither am I suggesting that anything be done to prejuduice our promotion aspirations, but........we have lost Spence and Ayling, Cooper as you say is injured, as is Byram, Struijk (and Firpo?), and if the clickbait drivel from newsnow is to be believed we're aiming to sign every out-of-work LB in the top three divisions, so on top of the comments from Der Fuhrer, what is Cresswell (who let's remember has remained silent on the matter despite comments from others) supposed to make of his prospects (and what should e do about improving them)?

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

If some of you are unable to see how inflammatory to ream spirit his Dad posting CC in a Millwall shirt… , there's plenty of him in White he could have used. His Dad/Agent should keep his mouth shut about team selection. Charlie should do likewise, he’s not our best CH. Probably needs another loan but due to an injury prone Cooper it doesn’t suit the club at this time. Let’s put our promotion chances on hold to placate Charlie.

Not sure anyone is saying placate Cresswell I am certainly not. His dad’s tweet may have been ill advised but not Charlie’s doing and the lad hasn’t said anything publically. I don’t have any evidence ce Cresswell has done anything wrong that is all.

So I Just think Farke should not have said what he did in a press conference and his words weren’t great imho.

Que sera sera - it’s kinda water under the bridge and what will happen will happen. I also get others may disagree.

[WTF11]

Not sure anyone is saying placate Cresswell I am certainly not. His dad’s tweet may have been ill advised but not Charlie’s doing and the lad hasn’t said anything publically. I don’t have any evidence ce Cresswell has done anything wrong that is all.

So I Just think Farke should not have said what he did in a press conference and his words weren’t great imho.

Que sera sera - it’s kinda water under the bridge and what will happen will happen. I also get others may disagree.

I suspect he will be wearing that Millwall shirt from now on, and not just for casual wear. Shame, I think he could have been a real asset to LUFC, and will be to any club he goes to henceforward.

[whitestomper45]

Not sure anyone is saying placate Cresswell I am certainly not. His dad’s tweet may have been ill advised but not Charlie’s doing and the lad hasn’t said anything publically. I don’t have any evidence ce Cresswell has done anything wrong that is all.

So I Just think Farke should not have said what he did in a press conference and his words weren’t great imho.

Que sera sera - it’s kinda water under the bridge and what will happen will happen. I also get others may disagree.

How do you know Charlie had nothing to do with it ? He didn’t distance himself from it

[WTF11]

How do you know Charlie had nothing to do with it ? He didn’t distance himself from it

Dont think HO nor myself are suggesting we are privy to any "inside knowledge" regarding what Crewwelll junior may or may not have said/done, simply that;

1. Cresswell junior has resisted any temptation to contribute to the spat between his dad and the club (mature beyond his years and not the sign of a "big head, one might suggest)

2. There is no publicly available evidence that would support either Der Fuhrers suggestion of some kind of mental incapacity on Cresswell juniors part, or those assertions made by MT regarding Crsswell Junior expecting to start 1st team games

3. In contrast, all the publicly available information (footage of his time on loan at Millwall, the plaudits from team mates and club management from his loan spell and including previous sentiments expressed by Der Fuhrer himself no more than a few months ago!), would indicate a player with bags of potential, able to adapt to new and changing playing situations, and suitably ambitious to feature as a 1st team player for LUFC

For Cresswell junior to remain silent is, IMHO, the wisest course of action. To "distance himself" would simply add fuel to the fire, something Der Fuhrer might want to ponder on next time he is asked to comment on similar situations (and with his record, there will be more)

[spaldy]

Mrs O,

I'm glad your daughter brought up the topic. It's been an interesting and lively discussion and, as a lot of things she posts, I've learned a lot about some of the process on this matter as well as the overall youth system. As typical for the forum it's wondered off course a bit but still been a very interesting thread.

European football, especially UK, is so different than anything we have in the US.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

So Spaldy - how long before the US MLS Cup competition becomes ‘the World Series’?

🤔🤣

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

How do you know Charlie had nothing to do with it ? He didn’t distance himself from it

I don’t have any direct evidence and think I have said that a few times in the thread.

However, what I have said is that

1. there is no evidence - beyond the very vague assertion Farke made that when he is on the coach he doesn’t seem focussed - that he has done anything wrong.

2. Some have said he isn’t training well in this thread - where did that come from.

3. Cresswell prior to this was generally thought to have a really good attitude and there are lots of comments from the club and elsewhere to that effect. The club offered him a new long term contract and the number 5 shirt this summer which might tend to support that view.

4. On any new kit launch Charlie C tends to be part of it - does not suggest he is a problem.

5. He hasn’t played since 4 October or been on the bench for weeks - I wouldn’t expect him to be happy.

6. Whatever the issue is Farke hung him out to dry publically. After that how do you expect Cresswell to react he can’t realistically respond in public. We don’t know what has happened behind the scenes since.

7. I have stressed that none of us most likely know the reality and it should have been dealt with behind closed doors.

8. It is a shame as Cresswell is home grown and has lots of potential.


The idea that he has said he won’t play unless he starts has no basis from what has been said and the little we know - the fact that crap surfaces from people reinforces my view Farke should have been more careful. If Charlie had said that then I am sure Farke would have come out and directly said so as he did with Gnonto and Sinisterra.

I stress I don’t know the actual position but seems no one else on here does either hence my views but I get others may disagree

[whitestomper45]

The only people who have hung CC to dry is himself and his Father.

Being around professional football a long time as a Player, current agent and Father to a professional he would know well the repercussions to his post of his son in another clubs kit. I can’t believe they wouldn’t have talked about it prior..if they didn’t Charlie should sack him as his agent.