Election Year or Fear!

[Geoff Parkstone]

Spot on MA. Subverting the law to align with your religious beliefs is sadly what all religions have tried to do for centuries. The Islamic call for Sharia law isn't much different from other interferences (eg Henry 8) but it must be resisted absolutely

[Trickytreesreds]

Starmer must be so relieved for the likes of Anderson. He was on the rack for his body swerving, trying to suppress an uprising by Muslim MP's in the ranks.
A problem he certainly doesn't want to deal with in the election run up.
Look like Linday Hoyle has taken that bullet for the team and is finished.

As if this country doesn't have enough to deal with, but to put the middle east **** storm, thats's been ongoing for 80 years at the top of topics

Wouldn't have owt to do with Jews would it?

[Andy_Faber]

C’mon Tricky…Muslims don’t hold the monopoly where bombings, stabbings, murders, intimidation and attempts to influence politics are concerned. Remember Jo Cox?
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I’m afraid the repeated trotting out of ‘Jo Cox’, tragic as it was, only strengthens TTR’s point, because since the cessation of IRA attacks the list of U.K. terrorist atrocities is utterly dominated by Muslim perpetrators, which would be a poor show if they were 50% of the population, but they are not, they are 8%.

[Trickytreesreds]

I’m afraid the repeated trotting out of ‘Jo Cox’, tragic as it was, only strengthens TTR’s point, because since the cessation of IRA attacks the list of U.K. terrorist atrocities is utterly dominated by Muslim perpetrators, which would be a poor show if they were 50% of the population, but they are not, they are 8%.

ISLAMOPHOBIA- AN IRRATIONAL FEAR? -
of course it is


More like lets sweep it under the carpet and this is 8% of the population. Though the importation continues

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...023-accessible

[swaledale]

I’m afraid the repeated trotting out of ‘Jo Cox’, tragic as it was, only strengthens TTR’s point, because since the cessation of IRA attacks the list of U.K. terrorist atrocities is utterly dominated by Muslim perpetrators, which would be a poor show if they were 50% of the population, but they are not, they are 8%.

So by your logic, when it was the IRA being the majority of perpetrators, were the Irish 50% of the population? No of course not! And were the Irish as a nationality being demonised as a whole during that period?


Thicky doesn't ahve a point, at least not one that's based on logic or reason, just pure prejudice and bigotry and its entirely unhelpful in addressing the root cause, but I guess that's too subtle for simpletons who live in a binary world of their own illusions.

[ramAnag]

I’m afraid the repeated trotting out of ‘Jo Cox’, tragic as it was, only strengthens TTR’s point, because since the cessation of IRA attacks the list of U.K. terrorist atrocities is utterly dominated by Muslim perpetrators, which would be a poor show if they were 50% of the population, but they are not, they are 8%.

‘Repeated trotting out of Jo Cox’? I don’t think her murder has been repeatedly referred to has it? Certainly not by me. My point is that right wing extremists are just as culpable and I really don’t understand how that strengthens Tricky’s point.
Are there too many Muslim perpetrators of terrorism? Yes.
Were there too many Irish perpetrators of terrorism between the sixties and the nineties? Yes.
Did we and do we all continue to demonise the Irish as a result? No.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Sorry rA but I was in Birmingham during the pub bombings, and please be assured that the Irish were demonized and attacked for a long time thereafter.

[ramAnag]

Sorry rA but I was in Birmingham during the pub bombings, and please be assured that the Irish were demonized and attacked for a long time thereafter.

Accepted…and of course in those circumstances that is always going to be local outrage, but generally I think it’s fair to say that our relationship with the Irish has not been totally tarnished by such events as Birmingham, Warrington, the Arndale in Manchester and numerous such atrocities in London.

[Andy_Faber]

‘Repeated trotting out of Jo Cox’? I don’t think her murder has been repeatedly referred to has it? Certainly not by me. My point is that right wing extremists are just as culpable and I really don’t understand how that strengthens Tricky’s point.
Are there too many Muslim perpetrators of terrorism? Yes.
Were there too many Irish perpetrators of terrorism between the sixties and the nineties? Yes.
Did we and do we all continue to demonise the Irish as a result? No.

Yes it has. And yes, by you

The point TTR has made, supported by GOV.UK’s own report, is that by far the biggest threat to UK (thats YOUR) security is from Islamic terrorists. Your point that ‘right wing extremists are just as culpable’ is flawed because, whilst each incident of any type is equally unacceptable, you ignore the volume/frequency of such incidents - thankfully HMG don’t.

I’m unsure whether you just don’t ‘get’ the impact of volume, happy to offer an analogy if you wish. I can’t help but think you’ve become a victim of Swalewashing though

[Trickytreesreds]

absolutely spot on.

This is how serious this is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CbZ...channel=TalkTV