Maynard In/Out/Shake it all about, Richard Montague's Recruitment, Cundy's Hip etc.

[OP67]

Lets just hope there's 2 teams worse than us next season as I can't see there being a change in the summer. The brothers will allow him another season because they're just too damn nice!

[matt_magpie]

Lets just hope there's 2 teams worse than us next season as I can't see there being a change in the summer. The brothers will allow him another season because they're just too damn nice!

That won’t be the case, Ardley was sacked when we were on the playoffs or extremely close. They will find out exactly what’s going off behind the scenes first. No one can argue with results since he came in, they’ve been awful but if they think there’s enough mitigating factors to give him a further chance then they probably will.

[upthemaggies]

That won’t be the case, Ardley was sacked when we were on the playoffs or extremely close. They will find out exactly what’s going off behind the scenes first. No one can argue with results since he came in, they’ve been awful but if they think there’s enough mitigating factors to give him a further chance then they probably will.

Nobody knows for certain, but it's reasonable I think to surmise that Ardley only lasted as long as he did because of the terms of his contract.
Financial considerations may be a factor in whether or not the owners decide to stick with Maynard into next season, for all we know.

[OP67]

Nobody knows for certain, but it's reasonable I think to surmise that Ardley only lasted as long as he did because of the terms of his contract.
Financial considerations may be a factor in whether or not the owners decide to stick with Maynard into next season, for all we know.

We got compensation from Swansea for them to buy out Lukes contract which had just been extended. To buy out Stu's contract from Wealdstone would have been small fry compared so there should be plenty left to pay off his contract if they so wish.

[upthemaggies]

We got compensation from Swansea for them to buy out Lukes contract which had just been extended. To buy out Stu's contract from Wealdstone would have been small fry compared so there should be plenty left to pay off his contract if they so wish.

They'd have to spend money on a new manager, who'd presumably want his own staff, so they'd have to sack the two guys Maynard brought with him as well.

Money may or may not be an issue (they might be using most of the Williams money to pay off debt for example), the fact they hired a part time manager from Wealdstone leads me to think that it is at least a significant factor, if not the full story. I cannot believe they simply thought he was the best manager out there if it's the case that they could have afforded to poach a full time manager from higher up.

The most realistic alternative explanation is that he's the best available that's willing to accept the level of interference that comes from above, which wouldn't bode well either. We can use euphemisms like "best fit for the club", "fits out model", but we're basically saying "yes man" with those phrases. That would be fine if that was working, but everybody seems to agree that recruitment has been a disaster and despite the obvious issues, that was still not addressed in January.

[Davy500]

They'd have to spend money on a new manager, who'd presumably want his own staff, so they'd have to sack the two guys Maynard brought with him as well.

Money may or may not be an issue (they might be using most of the Williams money to pay off debt for example), the fact they hired a part time manager from Wealdstone leads me to think that it is at least a significant factor, if not the full story. I cannot believe they simply thought he was the best manager out there if it's the case that they could have afforded to poach a full time manager from higher up.

The most realistic alternative explanation is that he's the best available that's willing to accept the level of interference that comes from above, which wouldn't bode well either. We can use euphemisms like "best fit for the club", "fits out model", but we're basically saying "yes man" with those phrases. That would be fine if that was working, but everybody seems to agree that recruitment has been a disaster and despite the obvious issues, that was still not addressed in January.

Seems like quite a good explanation
Money is definately a factor, it has to be because i said in a previous post most clubs operate at a loss - the owners model worked in the NL, ie getting cheap upcoming players and coaches, because the general opposition was much lower
As we are seeing it will not work in L2 or higher, as other clubs relative to Notts have higher budgets and more to spend on players, so this policy of the owners of buying cheapplayers or head coaches will not work and will probably lead to mid table or lower - which to be frank will please most supporters, once in a while maybe 1 out of 4 head coaches as in LW or finding langstaff it might pay off leading to a season challenging for play offs or promotion - perhaps this is the owners model, but in this case they have failed SM is not a diamond they have found in the rough nor are 3/4 of the current squad

[Lullapie]

They'd have to spend money on a new manager, who'd presumably want his own staff, so they'd have to sack the two guys Maynard brought with him as well.

Money may or may not be an issue (they might be using most of the Williams money to pay off debt for example), the fact they hired a part time manager from Wealdstone leads me to think that it is at least a significant factor, if not the full story. I cannot believe they simply thought he was the best manager out there if it's the case that they could have afforded to poach a full time manager from higher up.

The most realistic alternative explanation is that he's the best available that's willing to accept the level of interference that comes from above, which wouldn't bode well either. We can use euphemisms like "best fit for the club", "fits out model", but we're basically saying "yes man" with those phrases. That would be fine if that was working, but everybody seems to agree that recruitment has been a disaster and despite the obvious issues, that was still not addressed in January.

Absolutely nailed it. We would never know for certain, but I'm with UTM with this.

The Brothers may have thought, we'll give him a go, because he'd be grateful for the step up and with all we have in place, it will work. If it doesn't work, Notts will finish mid-table at the worse.

Hmm....we're are we currently?

[OP67]

They'd have to spend money on a new manager, who'd presumably want his own staff, so they'd have to sack the two guys Maynard brought with him as well.

Money may or may not be an issue (they might be using most of the Williams money to pay off debt for example), the fact they hired a part time manager from Wealdstone leads me to think that it is at least a significant factor, if not the full story. I cannot believe they simply thought he was the best manager out there if it's the case that they could have afforded to poach a full time manager from higher up.

The most realistic alternative explanation is that he's the best available that's willing to accept the level of interference that comes from above, which wouldn't bode well either. We can use euphemisms like "best fit for the club", "fits out model", but we're basically saying "yes man" with those phrases. That would be fine if that was working, but everybody seems to agree that recruitment has been a disaster and despite the obvious issues, that was still not addressed in January.

You wouldn't use the money from Williams to pay off debt, that's what day to day profits do. You use use it to invest on bringing another good manager in. This is where the brothers failed, they went for the cheap option.

The other two would have been contracted to Wealdstone so would have had their own compensation same as the guy that went with Williams.

[Jampie]

Nobody knows for certain, but it's reasonable I think to surmise that Ardley only lasted as long as he did because of the terms of his contract.
Financial considerations may be a factor in whether or not the owners decide to stick with Maynard into next season, for all we know.

They will take everything, finances included into account.

If they find a better coach they will definitely factor in the fact that the current results are costing us money too. And the risk of going down next season is very real, and would be an absolute catastrophe financially and for the club in general.

I hope they are at least looking for a replacement right now because riding through next season with SM in charge seems like a huge risk right now.

Regardless, there are serious problems with the squad that must also be addressed. If SM had a solid defence there would be a far lower risk of relegation next season.

[durhampie]

I really dont know why the club have not already hired a mini bus for him and his management team.. Mondays draw should not distract from the fact that he cost us 2 goals with his pointless substitution's, which then weakens the team, and possibly cost us 3 points. He makes the same mistakes every game which has cost us.. This should be enough to show that he just doesn't know what he is doing..