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Thread: O/T attack in Southport.

  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yak View Post
    Where have I excused it?
    I was saying it’s how people feel.
    I said I don’t agree with the riots.
    If you think it was just down to misinformation of this incident then you are naive.
    It’s the culmination of events where it’s 2 tier policing and reporting of information.
    The soldier getting attacked.
    The constant accusation of being accused of being right wing because you speak up and I’m mixed race but still get accused.
    The narrative of all the illegal immigrants looking for a better life which simply isn’t true.
    I posted on the other thread that some Muslims have condemned the idiots at Manchester Airport and it’s unfair to judge them all the same which you’ve chosen to ignore which sums up the situation. You are either left or right wing i am neither.
    I’ve suffered racism all my life but I’m clever enough to not tar all white people with the same brush.
    I see what I see and it’s controlled narrative of information.
    You excused it when you sought to explain away the reasons for it. Read what you wrote. Tacking on the obligatory ‘I don’t agree’ doesn’t change that.

    You think I’m naïve. That’s fair enough as the feeling is mutual. What other purpose do you think the hoax identification had other than to cause trouble? It was designed to press all the buttons of a certain section of society – ‘mental health’, ‘known the to the security services’ – there’s even a variant that says he came to the UK on a small boat last week. And it worked. You have to look no further than this thread and posts like yours in which you fantasied about shooting him in the back of the head.

    Do you think people turned up with balaclavas on the hottest day of the year and congregated on a mosque by accident?

    I have great deal of respect for you as a poster and I appreciate that this isn’t a pleasant post, but, seriously, if you think that you have an ability to see through propaganda and not be influenced by it, you need to think again.

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    Kerr I didn’t say it didn’t Contribute what was put on social media I said it wasn’t just down to that. Yes of course it had an impact but I don’t believe that was just the cause.
    The shooting comment wasn’t fantasising I just said I’d happily do it. Probably with my military background I would find it easier although that may sound uncomfortable to some that’s just how it is.
    There has to be a more objective way of looking at this hence my comment about judging all Muslims the same.
    I respect your views as always but my belief is that this has been brewing for a long time and violence against police etc is not the answer but it is going to lead to far worse. That’s not me condoning it more just understanding where the anger is coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yak View Post
    The ones who believe the propaganda and managed information.
    I have a lot of sympathy for the baby boomers. Generations before mine never had the internet, had very few news sources to choose from, and generally even though there was often a political bias - complete misinformation was quite rare.

    In this context, it makes complete sense... but it still shocks me just how vulnerable this generation is to misinformation.

    There's the more beneign, you see it with baby boomers on facebook who share posts that are often AI generated with some sort of picture of a sad looking homeless person or military veteran or disabled child asking "why doesn't anybody like this".

    Or course, people do share posts like this in their thousands. And the creators keep a big database of all the gullible people who share them so they can target them for scams - which is why you'll get the same types of people occasionally having their accounts hacked.

    Then, there's the less benign misinformation, that you get gullible people like Brin - accepting it unquestionably as fact that the attacker was an asylum seeker - sharing a provocative post with a fake name designed to invoke the type of rioting and unrest we are seeing from the far right.

    And then these same people wonder why the country is heading the direction it is...

    As I say, I'm sympathetic to why people are vulnerable to misinformation.

    It's just ironic the lack of self-awareness from people who share misinformation, glad that they're the ones that "see things as they are".

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    I have a lot of sympathy for the baby boomers. Generations before mine never had the internet, had very few news sources to choose from, and generally even though there was often a political bias - complete misinformation was quite rare.

    In this context, it makes complete sense... but it still shocks me just how vulnerable this generation is to misinformation.

    There's the more beneign, you see it with baby boomers on facebook who share posts that are often AI generated with some sort of picture of a sad looking homeless person or military veteran or disabled child asking "why doesn't anybody like this".

    Or course, people do share posts like this in their thousands. And the creators keep a big database of all the gullible people who share them so they can target them for scams - which is why you'll get the same types of people occasionally having their accounts hacked.

    Then, there's the less benign misinformation, that you get gullible people like Brin - accepting it unquestionably as fact that the attacker was an asylum seeker - sharing a provocative post with a fake name designed to invoke the type of rioting and unrest we are seeing from the far right.

    And then these same people wonder why the country is heading the direction it is...

    As I say, I'm sympathetic to why people are vulnerable to misinformation.

    It's just ironic the lack of self-awareness from people who share misinformation, glad that they're the ones that "see things as they are".
    Again with respect you see it from the left too imo
    If you don’t want to see it or believe it that’s fine but doesn’t make your opinion more valid than mine.
    I respect your views just don’t 100% agree with them but can see your point on some of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    I have a lot of sympathy for the baby boomers. Generations before mine never had the internet, had very few news sources to choose from, and generally even though there was often a political bias - complete misinformation was quite rare.

    In this context, it makes complete sense... but it still shocks me just how vulnerable this generation is to misinformation.

    There's the more beneign, you see it with baby boomers on facebook who share posts that are often AI generated with some sort of picture of a sad looking homeless person or military veteran or disabled child asking "why doesn't anybody like this".

    Or course, people do share posts like this in their thousands. And the creators keep a big database of all the gullible people who share them so they can target them for scams - which is why you'll get the same types of people occasionally having their accounts hacked.

    Then, there's the less benign misinformation, that you get gullible people like Brin - accepting it unquestionably as fact that the attacker was an asylum seeker - sharing a provocative post with a fake name designed to invoke the type of rioting and unrest we are seeing from the far right.

    And then these same people wonder why the country is heading the direction it is...

    As I say, I'm sympathetic to why people are vulnerable to misinformation.

    It's just ironic the lack of self-awareness from people who share misinformation, glad that they're the ones that "see things as they are".
    If you ever want to find a patronising post then it’s this.
    Calling people baby boomers to substantiate your point is well I’ll say it typical of the left.
    I can smell the arrogance of I know better than you simpletons.
    You assume that you are correct and some poor little souls don’t know any better bless them.
    Nothing wrong with opinions but assumption of you being right and other are just not clever enough to work out the truth is nauseating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back of the net View Post
    If you ever want to find a patronising post then it’s this.
    Calling people baby boomers to substantiate your point is well I’ll say it typical of the left.
    I can smell the arrogance of I know better than you simpletons.
    You assume that you are correct and some poor little souls don’t know any better bless them.
    Nothing wrong with opinions but assumption of you being right and other are just not clever enough to work out the truth is nauseating.
    I understand your interpretation, it's quite valid.

    But my post isn't just opinion, its objectively true. Baby boomers have, in this very thread, been gullible and shared misinformation designed to provoke an angry right wing response which is exactly what has happened.

    If anyone wants to be a snowflake or nauseated about the manner I delivered this message, go ahead. But all I ask is people also consider reflecting on it.

    If I ever share misinformation I'll gladly be called out on it and reflect on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    I have a lot of sympathy for the baby boomers. Generations before mine never had the internet, had very few news sources to choose from, and generally even though there was often a political bias - complete misinformation was quite rare.

    In this context, it makes complete sense... but it still shocks me just how vulnerable this generation is to misinformation.

    There's the more beneign, you see it with baby boomers on facebook who share posts that are often AI generated with some sort of picture of a sad looking homeless person or military veteran or disabled child asking "why doesn't anybody like this".

    Or course, people do share posts like this in their thousands. And the creators keep a big database of all the gullible people who share them so they can target them for scams - which is why you'll get the same types of people occasionally having their accounts hacked.

    Then, there's the less benign misinformation, that you get gullible people like Brin - accepting it unquestionably as fact that the attacker was an asylum seeker - sharing a provocative post with a fake name designed to invoke the type of rioting and unrest we are seeing from the far right.

    And then these same people wonder why the country is heading the direction it is...

    As I say, I'm sympathetic to why people are vulnerable to misinformation.

    It's just ironic the lack of self-awareness from people who share misinformation, glad that they're the ones that "see things as they are".
    There's more young kids spreading sheeite on social media than 60 year old boomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    I understand your interpretation, it's quite valid.

    But my post isn't just opinion, its objectively true. Baby boomers have, in this very thread, been gullible and shared misinformation designed to provoke an angry right wing response which is exactly what has happened.

    If anyone wants to be a snowflake or nauseated about the manner I delivered this message, go ahead. But all I ask is people also consider reflecting on it.

    If I ever share misinformation I'll gladly be called out on it and reflect on it.
    Lol

    The usual smug drivel from one of the brainwashed generation

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    Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
    I have a lot of sympathy for the baby boomers. Generations before mine never had the internet, had very few news sources to choose from, and generally even though there was often a political bias - complete misinformation was quite rare.

    In this context, it makes complete sense... but it still shocks me just how vulnerable this generation is to misinformation.

    There's the more beneign, you see it with baby boomers on facebook who share posts that are often AI generated with some sort of picture of a sad looking homeless person or military veteran or disabled child asking "why doesn't anybody like this".

    Or course, people do share posts like this in their thousands. And the creators keep a big database of all the gullible people who share them so they can target them for scams - which is why you'll get the same types of people occasionally having their accounts hacked.

    Then, there's the less benign misinformation, that you get gullible people like Brin - accepting it unquestionably as fact that the attacker was an asylum seeker - sharing a provocative post with a fake name designed to invoke the type of rioting and unrest we are seeing from the far right.

    And then these same people wonder why the country is heading the direction it is...

    As I say, I'm sympathetic to why people are vulnerable to misinformation.

    It's just ironic the lack of self-awareness from people who share misinformation, glad that they're the ones that "see things as they are".
    It's also very naive to think the right don't have anything credible to say .

    It's as much a convenient box to place the demographics you've mentioned is at is to place Muslims in another convenient box .

    It's also naive to think the left can't be a danger to UK society .

    The right aren't totally made up of the people the MSM like to portray , Tommy Robinson , EDL , Reform , Farage etc etc throwing red meat to angry people .

    People such as Matt Goodwin and Douglas Murray to name but two make many credible points that politicians would do well to take on board .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygiddypant View Post
    Who the f is this "super elite"? Elon Musk? Nigel Farage? Suella Braverman? Tony Stewart? Grist?
    Clause Schwab you moron. Blair. Our 'king'. Bill ******* Gates and Melinda, who gave the world Covid 19. Learn something about the world around you before you open your mouth and show your bleak ignorance. Google the World Economic forum. Or Davos.

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