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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    Labour continuously blaming the Tories for the mess we are in is expected to last how long ?

    The electorate see right through it .

    Get out of your metropolitan bubble Starmer .
    animal, I'd say at least the next 5 years that's if Labour get in again. Such is the devastation the Tories have left behind, billions of ££££'s squandered during their 14 year tenure, how did they stay in power for so long?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
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    Currently in the Costa Del Sol for the next two weeks , we are on it too .

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    If anyone genuinely can't or couldn't work I don't begrudge them their benefits but to take off pensioners who have worked who are now going to struggle through the winter their energy allowance it's like going back to the dark ages. It's beyond belief in this modern world they shouldn't be in power full stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    Very sad indeed.

    I've just watched them read out the results. Some Labour MPs cheered

    The Labour Party said themselves in a report that it could cost the lives of 4000 elderly. So in effect they'd cheered that as if it's a great victory.
    Plus 4000 less to be treat by the NHS. Not as daft as he looks this stazi bloke

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    Quote Originally Posted by RU66 View Post
    If anyone genuinely can't or couldn't work I don't begrudge them their benefits but to take off pensioners who have worked who are now going to struggle through the winter their energy allowance it's like going back to the dark ages. It's beyond belief in this modern world they shouldn't be in power full stop!


    I'm on pensions less than the national living wage annually but losing the energy allowance won't effect me the same as some who it does.

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    While agreeing that the fuel payment cuts are disgraceful I think this is what we can come to expect from a right wing labour pm like starmer. Also, interesting that the op seemed to think it should be a useful thread title re govt curs, where was this posters comments about cuts when the tories were I power. The tories are traditionally the party who makes cuts to ordinary people's lives in order to fund tax cuts for the rich.

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    Apparently this has saved 'the government' (taxpayers) £1.2 billion.

    Meanwhile, today, thick as mince Lammy has agreed 'the government' will send half that amount - £600 million - to the military industrial complex to help continue the pointless deaths of Ukraine civilians.

    General McGregor reports that at least 600,000 have so far perished.

    Pure evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eternal Optimist View Post
    Apparently this has saved 'the government' (taxpayers) £1.2 billion.

    Meanwhile, today, thick as mince Lammy has agreed 'the government' will send half that amount - £600 million - to the military industrial complex to help continue the pointless deaths of Ukraine civilians.

    General McGregor reports that at least 600,000 have so far perished.

    Pure evil.
    Is that on top of the £3bn already promised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    Is that on top of the £3bn already promised?
    Ukraine Pledge Totals So Far
    Based on the provided information, the UK has pledged a total of £12.5 billion in support to Ukraine since February 2022, with £7.6 billion dedicated to military assistance.

    Additionally, the UK has committed £3 billion per year of military support to Ukraine for as long as needed, and recently announced £600 million of “vit-al” support, including reaffirming a pledge of £242 million and $484 million worth of loan guarantees for World Bank lending.

    These pledges demonstrate the UK’s ongoing commitment to supporting Ukraine in its efforts against Russian aggression.
    Looks to me as though Labour are continuing to support;
    1. The Military Industrial Complex/Deep State, and;
    2. Feeding the 'meat grinder' in a war they simply cannot win.

    Option 1. has the added benefit of transferring cash from the bottom to the top.

    Of course, Blackrock, State Street and Vanguard shareholders will benefit financially from the death and destruction whilst pensioners freeze to death. What's not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by howdydoo View Post
    Rich people and big companies deserve tax breaks.

    Read this -

    Suppose that once a week, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...

    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    The fifth would pay £1.
    The sixth would pay £3.
    The seventh would pay £7.
    The eighth would pay £12.
    The ninth would pay £18.
    And the tenth man (the richest) would pay £59. 
    So, that's what they decided to do.

    The ten men drank in the bar every week and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until, one day, the owner caused them a little problem. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your weekly beer by £20." Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.

    The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free but what about the other six men? The paying customers? How could they divide the £20windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realized that £20 divided by six is £3.33 but if they subtracted that from everybody's share then not only would the first four men still be drinking for free but the fifth and sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. 

    So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fairer to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage. They decided to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

    And so, the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (a100% saving).
    The sixth man now paid £2 instead of £3 (a 33% saving).
    The seventh man now paid £5 instead of £7 (a 28% saving).
    The eighth man now paid £9 instead of £12 (a 25% saving).
    The ninth man now paid £14 instead of £18 (a 22% saving).
    And the tenth man now paid £49 instead of £59 (a 16% saving). 
    Each of the last six was better off than before with the first four continuing to drink for free. 

    But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got £1 out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got £10!"
    "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a £1 too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"

    "That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I only got £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

    "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. 

    The next week the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important - they didn't have enough money between all of them to pay for even half of the bill! 

    And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy and they just might not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
    The problem at the moment is that the bill comes to £110, but the customers still want to pay £100.

    And they are complaining because the beer has been watered, they're getting Bells instead of Lagavulin 16 and there are no pork scratchings.

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