Every day the vaccine rolls out

[Chick A Saw]

What worries me is the lax attitude of one of the UK nations with their backbenchers putting their leader under huge pressure to get everything open.
I honestly am not trying to be political but unfortunately there are MP's and MSP's who are funded by big business and they have to return the favour of the millions paid to them to keep the status quo.
To be honest i was staggered at how even some very elderly and vulnerable MP's are to declare the pandemic over,get everyone back in the office,factory etc and return to normal.
I would love that to happen BTW but their motives are to repay businesses that helped get them elected whereas i just want to see no more deaths UK wide,FACT.

Its not lax attitude, its a deliberate act because the people campaigning for this know exactly what they are doing and are showing utter contempt for all the people in the country who have made sacrifice's time and again in the fight back to normal.

The one that has me crossing over into a political slant is todays 70 MP uprising against so called Covid passports. This actually shows how disconnected MPs are from their electorate when those 70 MPs are campaigning against something that one poll is saying a majority of people would accept. I do agree with some of the things ive heard from the MPs today, but surely if the majority would sign up to such a scheme, then the MPs should be backing the electorate.

Speaking to neighbour who works in a call centre the other day, and they are saying their job will be working from home in the future. I can see that revolution continuing and maybe this will be the new normal for this kind of business.

[TerryTheTerror]

I'm not so sure about vaccine passports TBH. On the face of it they seem a good idea but, ultimately, could prove meaningless if new strains appear (for instance). Then you are into a which vaccine did you get scenarios et cetera. The thing to do is vaccinate the whole population (or as much as possible) and get on with things. This is a virus that we are going to need to live with now going forward.

I think, once all restrictions are lifted, most businesses will go back to the way things were. It may be in a few years time but that's what I reckon will happen.

[AraBrian]

I'm not so sure about vaccine passports TBH. On the face of it they seem a good idea but, ultimately, could prove meaningless if new strains appear (for instance). Then you are into a which vaccine did you get scenarios et cetera. The thing to do is vaccinate the whole population (or as much as possible) and get on with things. This is a virus that we are going to need to live with now going forward.

I think, once all restrictions are lifted, most businesses will go back to the way things were. It may be in a few years time but that's what I reckon will happen.

Feeling that the passport thing is a bit of a bluff to encourage the ones who will not get the vaccine seems there is loads of ethnic minorities in England who are not taking it.Also a lot of business's might not be around if they have to wait a year or two to get back to the way they were.

[JamesMcClean]

Passport vaccines are unworkable domestically, certainly up here. For some reason in Scotland, nobody has been given a vaccination card while in contrast in the rest of the UK, each person has been given a card with their name, date of birth, date of first vaccination, date of second and type and batch date of vaccination given. I asked about this when I got my first shot and was told by the vaccinator that this was not being done up here. I have no idea why not because it’s quick, cheap, easy to distribute and although there were no plans for ‘passports’ at the time, it could (maybe should) have been seen as a valuable option moving forward to cover any future potential bases. There’s no way now that retrospectively you can have 2,500,000 people phoning their respective GPs for a vaccine certificate just so they can go to the pictures. It clearly would be chaos. It could potentially happen down south though as they have the vaccine cards butI think it will come down to individual businesses and not be a blanket legal requirement.

It will be different for international travel though - that will undoubtedly require vaccination and certification/proof of it. And correctly so.

[AraBrian]

Passport vaccines are unworkable domestically, certainly up here. For some reason in Scotland, nobody has been given a vaccination card while in contrast in the rest of the UK, each person has been given a card with their name, date of birth, date of first vaccination, date of second and type and batch date of vaccination given. I asked about this when I got my first shot and was told by the vaccinator that this was not being done up here. I have no idea why not because it’s quick, cheap, easy to distribute and although there were no plans for ‘passports’ at the time, it could (maybe should) have been seen as a valuable option moving forward to cover any future potential bases. There’s no way now that retrospectively you can have 2,500,000 people phoning their respective GPs for a vaccine certificate just so they can go to the pictures. It clearly would be chaos. It could potentially happen down south though as they have the vaccine cards butI think it will come down to individual businesses and not be a blanket legal requirement.

It will be different for international travel though - that will undoubtedly require vaccination and certification/proof of it. And correctly so.

If everyone can get vaccine certificate/proof for international travel can't see why they can't get it for national travel pubs etc?There was mention while ago about doctors charging people for certificates/proof the had their vaccines.

[JamesMcClean]

If everyone can get vaccine certificate/proof for international travel can't see why they can't get it for national travel pubs etc?There was mention while ago about doctors charging people for certificates/proof the had their vaccines.

Because of the numbers. It’s one thing phoning up your GP for a Covid vacc. cert. for international travel. But if it was opened up that everyone needed one for the basics of domestic life, then the volume of phone calls that GP surgeries would have to take to deal with such requests would be totally unviable. And that’s before you get to the processing, production and subsequent issuing of such paperwork. It cannot be overestimated how Primary Care Services have been affected by the pandemic. They are currently in absolutely no position to be processing mass Covid vaccination certificates.

[AraBrian]

Because of the numbers. It’s one thing phoning up your GP for a Covid vacc. cert. for international travel. But if it was opened up that everyone needed one for the basics of domestic life, then the volume of phone calls that GP surgeries would have to take to deal with such requests would be totally unviable. And that’s before you get to the processing, production and subsequent issuing of such paperwork. It cannot be overestimated how Primary Care Services have been affected by the pandemic. They are currently in absolutely no position to be processing mass Covid vaccination certificates.

Think if we are paying doctor say £50 a certificate they will find a way.Think will be on you'r medical record when you got jab and which one you got so don't think it would be massive job for some office junior to fill certificates in and take you'r money.

[JamesMcClean]

Think if we are paying doctor say £50 a certificate they will find a way.Think will be on you'r medical record when you got jab and which one you got so don't think it would be massive job for some office junior to fill certificates in and take you'r money.

GPs are engaged enough with dealing with the pandemic as it is. Trust me, it’s not simple and it would be a massive job and right now they are in no position to be able to engage with certificate issuing.

[jjaflup22]

I'm not so sure about vaccine passports TBH. On the face of it they seem a good idea but, ultimately, could prove meaningless if new strains appear (for instance). Then you are into a which vaccine did you get scenarios et cetera. The thing to do is vaccinate the whole population (or as much as possible) and get on with things. This is a virus that we are going to need to live with now going forward.

I think, once all restrictions are lifted, most businesses will go back to the way things were. It may be in a few years time but that's what I reckon will happen.

I don't think so. I agree with Chick, if businesses can work in the long term with people working from home they will do it. They will need much smaller office spaces and it will cost them much less which is always the bottom line. I think home working will be the norm in the future for companies that can do it.

[Chick A Saw]

I don't think so. I agree with Chick, if businesses can work in the long term with people working from home they will do it. They will need much smaller office spaces and it will cost them much less which is always the bottom line. I think home working will be the norm in the future for companies that can do it.

Im not sure that for the likes of a call centre, that they will use a smaller building as i think some degree of social distancing will be here to stay in that kind of setting.

On vaccine passports, the international one might not need us to do anything as it would be part of the point of sale checks we all go through anyway. There may be a requirement to obtain a code prior to booking the travel arrangements, but i have to do that every year at work for driver licence checks, and a similar system could be set up by the NHS.

Im split on needing proof of vaccination for going to the pub, and i think everyone who has mentioned the subject today has already covered my thinking. Im not sure though that the code system mentioned above would be workable, and is likely open to abuse.

I does though appear that once we are all vaccinated in Scotland, all you will have to do is prove residence in Scotland and away you go!