OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[ramAnag]

Steady Adi...one thing I really can't be accused of is being 'fickle'. If nothing else I've been consistent.
Neither am I saying that four months tells us all we need to know about the consequences of Brexit. It is true though that, in that period, Sterling has gone down, the price of imports has gone up and no one seems clear about what 'Brexit' means.

[ramAnag]

Interesting decision in the High Court this morning.
Maybe the European Court will have to decide.

[Andy_Faber]

I notice Nigel Farage has risen from his crypt

[ramAnag]

I notice Nigel Farage has risen from his crypt

Oh God, has he? Every silver lining has a cloud.

[Andy_Faber]

Oh God, has he? Every silver lining has a cloud.

Seriously, UKIP has just refound its MOJO. every English and Welsh MP will now be bricking themselves, my guess at their thought process will be that if they are seen to be voting against Art 50, enough leavers will jump ship to UKIP at the next election to make it a real risk that they will be unseated - and for that matter that we have a 'very strange' new govt in 2020, or whenever

[ramAnag]

Take your point Andy. My hope is that enough of the original Brexiteers recognise the con and now wish to disassociate themselves from anything to do with Farage/UKIP. Also that sufficient numbers of the Remain campaign manage to put aside their differences and form a moderate centre left alliance that, under the guidance of an effective leader, puts the well being of all the country at the forefront of its aims rather than being governed by knee jerk reaction to far right and not quite so far left ideologies.

A Farage/Johnson/Gove/Fox/Corbyn/Abbott/Banks/Rudd free world would suit me fine...possibly more chance of us winning 5-0 on Saturday...but I did say it was just a hope.

[Andy_Faber]

Take your point Andy. My hope is that enough of the original Brexiteers recognise the con and now wish to disassociate themselves from anything to do with Farage/UKIP. Also that sufficient numbers of the Remain campaign manage to put aside their differences and form a moderate centre left alliance that, under the guidance of an effective leader, puts the well being of all the country at the forefront of its aims rather than being governed by knee jerk reaction to far right and not quite so far left ideologies.

A Farage/Johnson/Gove/Fox/Corbyn/Abbott/Banks/Rudd free world would suit me fine...possibly more chance of us winning 5-0 on Saturday...but I did say it was just a hope.

IMO you are being a bit Utopian, MPs will be bothered about what keeps them in the plague pit for another term. And also IMO UKIP will make one Hell of a noise about this.

You have to ask yourself, do you want Britain out of EU, or Britain in EU and UKIP in government (or at least holding the balance of power)

As usual, I'm not making a political point, just reading the tea leaves

[ramAnag]

IMO you are being a bit Utopian, MPs will be bothered about what keeps them in the plague pit for another term. And also IMO UKIP will make one Hell of a noise about this.

You have to ask yourself, do you want Britain out of EU, or Britain in EU and UKIP in government (or at least holding the balance of power)

As usual, I'm not making a political point, just reading the tea leaves

Joining the 'soothsayers' eh, Andy?
What a horrible dilemma you provide us with. Can't I have the third way...the UK remains in a fairer and less bureaucratic EU and UKIP gets out of the UK...please?
Oh...and Derby winning the playoffs too would be nice.

As you say...'a bit Utopian' but a man can dream.

[FrenchTrimmed]

Joining the 'soothsayers' eh, Andy?
What a horrible dilemma you provide us with. Can't I have the third way...the UK remains in a fairer and less bureaucratic EU and UKIP gets out of the UK...please?
Oh...and Derby winning the playoffs too would be nice.

As you say...'a bit Utopian' but a man can dream.

Like Lots!!!!!!

[swaledale]

Quite how 37% of the electorate is going to elect a UKIP government defies all maths but hey ho!

I do find it ironic that the Brexit camp are now complaining that the democratically elected sovereign parliament will now have the opportunity to debate and vote on Brexit or at least its terms! I seem to recall they were wanting to leave the EU so that the Uk parliament could regain its power to do such a thing!

Its also interesting with the Nissan deal, signs that the government saying "hard" Brexit publicly is not what they are saying privately!