Sturgeonland

[donsdaft]

I've said all along that Scotland is too full of fearties to vote for independence.

Well, Sturgeon's type of independence anyway.

Loathed though I am to nurture hope again, perhaps we can try a different way.

I'll vote for Kate Forbes's SNP.

[InversneckieDob]

As I said earlier, her leadership in government will all come down to whether she's professional enough to put her abhorrent, personal, bigoted beliefs to one side and govern with an ethos of commonality.

Having known a few Free Churchers, I have my doubts.

They tend to make the bigoted caricature Donsdaft satirises on here seem reasonable.

[donsdaft]

I am reasonable

[stewarty27]

We should all fear her winning. Glue pot

Listen Son I was fighting for a Socialist Republican Independent Scotland whist you were still sookin on yer ma's teat. I'll take no right wing lectures fae you, Neither Forbes or the other two would be my preference to take us where we need to be ! but alas we are where we are so I'll only commit to saying Anyone but Humza Yousef You and our Unionist media preference for Humza Yousef tells me everything I need to know. Now have a nice day x

[TheDeeDon]

I've said all along that Scotland is too full of fearties to vote for independence.

Well, Sturgeon's type of independence anyway.

Loathed though I am to nurture hope again, perhaps we can try a different way.

I'll vote for Kate Forbes's SNP.

Fearties, no. More like being brought up knowing nothing more than the condescending shyte from Westminster, which made us believe we couldn't do anything for ourselves.

The Thatcher years was probably the beginning of the modern national movement, in that more and more people began to question our relationship with Westminster during her tenure. Then the creation of the Scottish Parliament was the best thing Labour ever did for Scotland. Through that we will get independence at some point in the not too distant future. Won't be through us older folk, many of us are still ingrained in the belief that the union is best and the English parties know what is best for us and an opinion I don't have much issue with, in relation to older folk. Many people struggle to adapt with changes later in life and that is what most of the fear is, a fear of change.

[TheDeeDon]

Well, Sturgeon's type of independence anyway.

Loathed though I am to nurture hope again, perhaps we can try a different way.

I'll vote for Kate Forbes's SNP.

Would you really prefer a Kate Forbes style Scotland just because you hate gay people?

[donsdaft]

Fearties, no. More like being brought up knowing nothing more than the condescending shyte from Westminster, which made us believe we couldn't do anything for ourselves.

The Thatcher years was probably the beginning of the modern national movement, in that more and more people began to question our relationship with Westminster during her tenure. Then the creation of the Scottish Parliament was the best thing Labour ever did for Scotland. Through that we will get independence at some point in the not too distant future. Won't be through us older folk, many of us are still ingrained in the belief that the union is best and the English parties know what is best for us and an opinion I don't have much issue with, in relation to older folk. Many people struggle to adapt with changes later in life and that is what most of the fear is, a fear of change.

That was the argument in 1974.

Either all those old people are still there ( lots of them are) or the argument has just never been good enough.

[donsdaft]

Would you really prefer a Kate Forbes style Scotland just because you hate gay people?

Hating them and refusing to join in with a fantasy are two different things.


Anyway, we have still to find out what a Kate Forbes style Scotland will look like.

One that believes in realism would be a start.

[TheDeeDon]

That was the argument in 1974.

Scotland would never have voted for Independence in 1974.

The parliament opened in 1999, so kids schooled from that point onwards will have been brought up knowing more about our own parliament than Westminster and hence the reason I am sure will give us independence.

[donsdaft]

Of course I was just 15 and admittedly had a limited social circle, but I didn’t know anyone who would have voted against independence.

I wasn’t taking Huns into account though.

My point remains the same.
As a youngster, I thought it was only a matter of 5 years or so.