Birmingham City - v Leeds United ***Matchday Thread***

[WTF11]

you could say that in a way but we win and lose as a team and earlier in the game he pulled off a top drawer save to keep us in the game.

we are not going to win every game no matter how much we want to and a return of 6 points from 9 over Christmas is play off form.

Said it earlier in the thread, we were poor as a team, but Wiewald is consistently so (and that "top drawer save", nah not really). He needs replacing, soon.

[WTF11]

I said many negative things about WW on this forum, but that goal yesterday was definitely not his fault. i would argue that he did really well to get down and make the initial save from a shot that had pace, swerve and also dipped from inside the 18 yard box.

On this occasion the defense should and could have done more to prevent the initial shot and also could have anticipated a rebound.

Not sure which "shot" you're referring to. The shot insane as fluffed, grounded well before the keeper and there was enough time to nip off and have a swift pint before it reached him. He went down too early, bounced off the surface of the pitch, destabilising his arms/hands and didn't collect as he should have, training ground stuff that should never be seen on a Championship pitch and neither should he.

[LeedsFTW]

Not sure which "shot" you're referring to. The shot insane as fluffed, grounded well before the keeper and there was enough time to nip off and have a swift pint before it reached him. He went down too early, bounced off the surface of the pitch, destabilising his arms/hands and didn't collect as he should have, training ground stuff that should never be seen on a Championship pitch and neither should he.

Only thing I will change was shot was taken 2 yards out side of area, everything else I said is correct. The ball did not bounce off the surface it actually came of WW. It was a good save.

[WTF11]

Only thing I will change was shot was taken 2 yards out side of area, everything else I said is correct. The ball did not bounce off the surface it actually came of WW. It was a good save.

Watch it again (and again), and see the ball strikes the ground in front of the guy because he's gone too soon, and yes the ball does come off him, he didn't collect it!

He's not good enough, never will be.