O/T:- Vaccines: Pro/Anti & Conspiracy Theories [Originally Covid Pass and Meadow Ln.]

[upthemaggies]

The opposite side of your coin though is that people have, and continue to, die because of the unvaccinated population. Whether that's themselves or disease they pass to others.

Vaccinated pass on the virus as well.

[sinophile]

Absolutely, vaccination is the only route out. This is why intellectual property rights should be waived on vaccines, so that poorer countries can produce their own vaccines instead of being priced out the market. The EU, UK and US have blocked this.

[sinophile]

And, until the whole World is protected variants will continue to arrive, and, sooner or later, one will be even more deadly and will be able to evade current vaccines

[cher1]

Vaccinated pass on the virus as well.

But not to the same extent, and they become less ill. That's been proven.

The number of vaccinated hospitalisations have only increased as immunity wanes. As booster rates increase, the difference will become stark once again.

[magpie_mania]

Vaccinated pass on the virus as well.

Is there any correlation between the numbers hospitalized and dying falling at the same time that the numbers of people vaccinated increased? Or was it just coincidence?

Referencing your comment earlier that vaccinations may or may not work. For me, that's the clearest indication that they do.

[ncfcog]

I haven't looked into this properly yet but instead of forcing vaccines on people is it better to set up an antibody testing programme and if you are positive, like UTM with his Sars-1 infection you don't have to have the vaccine? I have no idea how the antibody tests work but I'm sure there are a few well educated people on here who could explain if antibody testing is an alternative? Seems it might solve a few problems if it worked? Like I said, not something I've researched so could be way off track here

[magpie_mania]

I haven't looked into this properly yet but instead of forcing vaccines on people is it better to set up an antibody testing programme and if you are positive, like UTM with his Sars-1 infection you don't have to have the vaccine? I have no idea how the antibody tests work but I'm sure there are a few well educated people on here who could explain if antibody testing is an alternative? Seems it might solve a few problems if it worked? Like I said, not something I've researched so could be way off track here

How effective are antibodies after you have had it, and how long do they last for? I guess it might be too early yet to know that. If it is certain that once you have had it you can't get it again that would be a good way forward. But if the effect does wain, then the only booster would be to get it again.

[SwalePie]

How effective are antibodies after you have had it, and how long do they last for? I guess it might be too early yet to know that. If it is certain that once you have had it you can't get it again that would be a good way forward. But if the effect does wain, then the only booster would be to get it again.

On the subject of getting Covid multiple times, according to the data from South Africa, Omicron re-infection rates are notably higher than the other variants.

[SaltySeaDog]

On the subject of getting Covid multiple times, according to the data from South Africa, Omicron re-infection rates are notably higher than the other variants.

But also (at the moment at least), the data shows it to be much less deadly. Hopefully it stays that way

[BigFatPie]

Updated Covid guidance from Notts. Proof of vaccination not needed tomorrow.

https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news...h-info-101221/