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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    Yesterday there was a ‘have your say’ on a topic on the BBC Scotland news website about the stupid new rules introduced by Nippy.
    By 5pm there were 3068 posts listed on the website with nearly everyone posting that Nippy has no interest in Scotland only in herself. A number of posters stated that Nippy should resign as First Minister as she is only interested in independence.
    Another poster highlighted that the Scottish local authorities are receiving a reduction of £371 million in the next year’s financial budget whilst the Scottish Government Constitution department is receiving £350 million. This proves that Nippy and useless Kate Forbes are ‘hell bent’ on independence for Scotland at the expense of council tax payers throughout Scotland.
    Interesting point about local government being deprived of funds. In the old days it was quite normal for local councils to be run by independents or groups of councillors who did not take their political philosophy from the Westminster Government of the day. The Scots have forgotten the benefit of having local government which is interested in providing services which the local population need as against voting for local councillors whose allegiance is always to the Holyrood leadership. Maybe covid will make the voters think for themselves rather than follow an idea of independence that is so divisive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I know nothing about the Public Health Act 1984, Civil Contingencies Act 2004 and Coronavirus Act 2020 but if they have been passed onto the statue book by the Westminster Government then Nippy and the rest of her useless MSPs cannot alter it to suit their own agenda.
    The Scottish Government is only responsible for devolved matters at Holyrood namely Health, Education, Justice and Transport and since May 2007 the SNP have managed to make a hash of all these devolved matters.
    Over three years ago the SNP controlled Scottish Government were given more welfare powers but Michael Russell SNP MSP for Argyll and Bute admitted at least two years ago when a panellist on the BBC Question Time programme that the Scottish Government cannot use these extra welfare powers because they are too expensive to use.
    How Nippy can think that Scotland is capable of becoming an independent country when her Scottish Government will not use extra welfare powers they have been given by the Westminster Government national because they cost too much money is beyond me. The SNP MSPs have been ‘spoon fed’ by Westminster for too long and it is now time for them to stand up on their own feet and act like a Parliament not just a bunch of ‘jumped town councillors’ who complain about everyone else. This is the real world not Brigadoon.
    Those powers are too expensive because someone else decides how much money we spend.

    If Scotland were independent,I could see your point,but while someone else controls the purse strings,its difficult to see how the snp can be blamed for not having enough money.

    Please don't tell me about the barnett formula again, I don't need to hear your version of it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantzer View Post
    Those powers are too expensive because someone else decides how much money we spend.

    If Scotland were independent,I could see your point,but while someone else controls the purse strings,its difficult to see how the snp can be blamed for not having enough money.

    Please don't tell me about the barnett formula again, I don't need to hear your version of it again
    Well said. Bet he mentions it!

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    Found out something today that I find faf.

    An acquaintance of mine at the golf has just tested positive for the 4th time.

    I said to the guy I was playing with today that must be a world record.

    He then said well the Oxford study getting its money's worth.

    Me curious ask what the Oxford study is.

    He says they get paid for doing regular testing, no sure how much £s or how often but he said I think it's a lot of testing.

    I then said has he ever had a PCR test to confirm lateral......no

    But here's the thing.....once he's positive he then tests daily so will be counted as a new positive every day .....is this right? Anyone else heard of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Found out something today that I find faf.

    An acquaintance of mine at the golf has just tested positive for the 4th time.

    I said to the guy I was playing with today that must be a world record.

    He then said well the Oxford study getting its money's worth.

    Me curious ask what the Oxford study is.

    He says they get paid for doing regular testing, no sure how much £s or how often but he said I think it's a lot of testing.

    I then said has he ever had a PCR test to confirm lateral......no

    But here's the thing.....once he's positive he then tests daily so will be counted as a new positive every day .....is this right? Anyone else heard of this?
    When I was booking my PCR test online today there was mention of studies - you have to answer a list of questions and one of them was whether I was part of a study with various names mentioned.

    Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if what you're suggesting is true. Gotta get the numbers up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Found out something today that I find faf.

    An acquaintance of mine at the golf has just tested positive for the 4th time.

    I said to the guy I was playing with today that must be a world record.

    He then said well the Oxford study getting its money's worth.

    Me curious ask what the Oxford study is.

    He says they get paid for doing regular testing, no sure how much £s or how often but he said I think it's a lot of testing.

    I then said has he ever had a PCR test to confirm lateral......no

    But here's the thing.....once he's positive he then tests daily so will be counted as a new positive every day .....is this right? Anyone else heard of this?
    Nothing I can see to say different. If it is a nonsense of multiple counting it will just be carrying on the farce with the rest of the statistics to do with Covid. I read that the majority of folk in hospital with Covid caught the damn thing in the hospital. So you can be wheeled into hospital at death's door with whatever, catch Covid in ICU and hey presto you are a Covid death. Madness!

    I have a question too. What is the damn good of a negative Lateral Flow Test to get you into an event? it is the easiest thing to obtain, you don't even have to take the ruddy test. Just get the number off the test thingy, report it as negative without even doing the test and hey presto again you ARE negative according to the reply sent to you. More madness. Oh and I've never tried this myself, Returnofrros, I still have never felt the need to take a test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantzer View Post
    Those powers are too expensive because someone else decides how much money we spend.

    If Scotland were independent,I could see your point,but while someone else controls the purse strings,its difficult to see how the snp can be blamed for not having enough money.

    Please don't tell me about the barnett formula again, I don't need to hear your version of it again
    It is not Islay's version of the Barnett formula it is a fact. Even many at the top of the SNP admit that there is no economic case for independence. They know that we will be worse off financially, far worse off. The independent Fraser of Allander research unit have stated that even without the extra Barnett money we would be further worse off because prior to adding on the Barnett formula Scotland pays far less into the UK coffers than it gets back. These are facts that SNP supporters choose to ignore in their blinkered rush to try to be independent. Some other poster previously said it is a cult and in a cult all reason goes out the window and that to me sums up the SNP and their deluded supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodee1893 View Post
    It is not Islay's version of the Barnett formula it is a fact. Even many at the top of the SNP admit that there is no economic case for independence. They know that we will be worse off financially, far worse off. The independent Fraser of Allander research unit have stated that even without the extra Barnett money we would be further worse off because prior to adding on the Barnett formula Scotland pays far less into the UK coffers than it gets back. These are facts that SNP supporters choose to ignore in their blinkered rush to try to be independent. Some other poster previously said it is a cult and in a cult all reason goes out the window and that to me sums up the SNP and their deluded supporters.
    Noah labelled it a cult....quite catchy.😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodee1893 View Post
    It is not Islay's version of the Barnett formula it is a fact. Even many at the top of the SNP admit that there is no economic case for independence. They know that we will be worse off financially, far worse off. The independent Fraser of Allander research unit have stated that even without the extra Barnett money we would be further worse off because prior to adding on the Barnett formula Scotland pays far less into the UK coffers than it gets back. These are facts that SNP supporters choose to ignore in their blinkered rush to try to be independent. Some other poster previously said it is a cult and in a cult all reason goes out the window and that to me sums up the SNP and their deluded supporters.
    No,it is islays version,definitely.

    I have no problem with the barnett formula,just the version islay gives of it being akin to a charitable donation.

    And they are not facts,they are opinions, much like the opinion that the UK economy loses half a trillion in business due to Brexit,the opinion that brexit is the best thing to happen to the UK the opinion that Anderson tried to hurt Kingsley and the opinion that max won the ball clean.

    Opinions and facts are not the same,although islay would disagree with that as well

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    I don't count something set into statute as to the way funds are divvied up throughout the UK as a charitable donation. What bothers me, however, is the fantasy economics that we would somehow be better off without it. I have spoken to SNP supporters who admit we will have far less funds at our disposal but somehow that is OK because it is better to have total control of what you do with far less funds. This form of economics beggars belief as does the idea that we will be able to keep all tax paid in Scotland but not have to take on any of the past burden of pension payments to government employees, everything from Police to Teachers & the NHS etc. Some even think that the UK will continue into the future paying for future pension contributions. Again the Fraser of Allender unit and others have calculated that the severance settlement due to the rest of the UK for said pension rights and current ongoing joint UK projects, and ongoing Private Finding Initiatives would put us in such debt that we would be a basket case economically. This of course is nothing different from the settlement the UK had to work out with the EU to enable Brexit.

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