Killie (a)

[Arabdownsouth]

what does he really do tho?

We treat him like hes some sort of good versatile midfielder and maybe thats our fault. id say hes below average at most things and we shouldnt be trying to find some role for him to play.

Hes below average at tackling and passing but we will sometimes play him deeper, he has very little creativity but we will sometimes play him the more attacking of the midfielders. We cant rely on him when the games get tough to help us get control and we dont ever see him take a grip of a game. im not entirely sure what he brings other than the occasional run in to the box to get a shot on goal. id uch rather see us find a balance of midfielders who can do the different things well than fit someone in who can do everything below average

In a season where we scored not many, his goals won us some very valuable points. He won us the derby for instance.,Just saying .

[the_arab]

In a season where we scored not many, his goals won us some very valuable points. He won us the derby for instance.,Just saying .

Not disputing that, but hes a midfielder whos not very good at it.... do we just carry him the whole season to score a few goals or do we look to be better in midfield to actually create some more chances for the attacking players to score... id rather the latter

[TerryTheTerror]

I think what he does best isn't easy to see and quantify. That is, he makes it difficult for opposition teams to play against us in two ways. Most importantly, closing space in midfield but also keeping the ball in our possession. ADS is right of course, how goals last season did win is a lot of points but that, IMHO, isn't the best of him.

As I say, it's a bit of a moot point as a sizable chuck of the United support just don't see it and have made their mind to about him.

[A. J]

Getting bored of the he could he might talk re Harkes, facts imo are apart from the odd game he hasn't

Nice fella and would love Jack to make him consistently a 7+ out if 10, but as it stands Harkes is not good enough at this level

[tHeArAb]

Lastly boys saying they'd have taken a point on that plastic pitch is a loser mentality and is something i really hope our players do not think. We need to shake that attitude imo and demand better.

One win in nine attempts does that to you.

[GUNBOAT]

One win in nine attempts does that to you.

Ironically under McInnes Aberdeen went there and crushed them.I even remember one game where Killie refused to water a pitch that was as dry as sandpaper McInnes mentioned it pre match.It ended up Killie 0 Sheep 4.

[shedka]

I see a silly (frustrating) and maybe even harsh double yellow has the Harkes haters reveling in it and got their claws out to have a swipe and one minter "the wee American fkr", the reason we are in this position as a club is due to an American owner, we'd be fkd in a limbo otherwise.. As for Harkes, not like he isn't one of the main reasons we got 4th, was part of our best performances and strongest xi last season pre November and he will be again this season

He will still prove the haters wrong in the end as he has for 3 years now which is good so enjoy having a wee kick at the guy

I feel McNulty who I don't rate it like gets a tough ride from some fans and didn't deserve it really as not like he tried to miss etc, so for a guy who has served us so well over years on our way back and popped up with key winners in big games andno history of silly yellows/reds to get this treatment from a section of fans says it all about a section of our fans really

Just glad he is available for Thurs, we have a much better chance with him in the starting xi

[shedka]

A lot of positives from yesterday, roll on Thursday and hopefully we still have enough to do those Livi chunts on the Sunday

[Whitfieldarab]

"Haters" lol.

Nice header from Harkes before his 1st stupid booking. Should have been 2-0 up before he sold the jersey's. Maybe when you were listening to the wireless yesterday they never reported his sitter.

[TerryTheTerror]

At least twice yesterday Harkes passed the ball direct to an opponent, so keeping possession my @rse!

Did anyone else lose possession a couple of times yesterday or was it just Harkes?