Election Year or Fear!

[Trickytreesreds]

Now you see, unpopular opinion maybe, but I have no issue with the 2 child cap, having children is a choice afterall.

Most of the time, Ill health, getting old, losing your job etc isn't.

That said I don't know what happened when it was reduced to 2 children, I would say it should have only applied to new pregnancies/births and not existing families.

I concur. Having a large family is a personal choice. It is not the states job to finance your life decisions. Have as many kids as you want, but don't dip in my pocket to fund it.

Sweden made a massive mistake, paying more money to have bigger families. Unfortunately, they found that loads decided they didn't want to work anymore and just kept on having kids.

[ramAnag]

Now you see, unpopular opinion maybe, but I have no issue with the 2 child cap, having children is a choice afterall.

Most of the time, Ill health, getting old, losing your job etc isn't.

That said I don't know what happened when it was reduced to 2 children, I would say it should have only applied to new pregnancies/births and not existing families.

Take your point Sith. Shouldn’t tell Musk and Trump though…think they’ve got 17 kids between the two of them!
See Trump has said Swift will ‘pay the price’ (of supporting Harris). Bit sinister.

[swaledale]

Now you see, unpopular opinion maybe, but I have no issue with the 2 child cap, having children is a choice afterall.

Most of the time, Ill health, getting old, losing your job etc isn't.

That said I don't know what happened when it was reduced to 2 children, I would say it should have only applied to new pregnancies/births and not existing families.

Not sure what ill health, growing old and losing ones job has to do with means testing the winter fuel allowance so it goes only to those that need it?

[ramAnag]

Not sure what ill health, growing old and losing ones job has to do with means testing the winter fuel allowance so it goes only to those that need it?

Bit harsh that last one, Swale. Sith is only comparing the need for the State to intervene and support those in need due to unforeseen circumstances/infirmity, rather than those who make a lifestyle choice.

I can see his point, though having said that, only the terminally stupid would consider having a child because they would be entitled to the £16.95 pw child allowance. Especially seeing as the average weekly cost of childcare is approaching £150 pw.

[MadAmster]

Maybe we should remember that Trump is a synonym for Fart so maybe we shouldn't be surprised at all the **** he spouts.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Might do the world a favour though if he eliminated Queen Swiftie

[swaledale]

Might do the world a favour though if he eliminated Queen Swiftie

Why? Not aware that you or anybody for that matter was compelled to listen to her music? Wouldn't ahve thought an erudite, deep thinker like yourself would be in favour of such a sentiment.

[SithHappens]

Might do the world a favour though if he eliminated Queen Swiftie

hmm a bit bad taste that even if said in jest considering the recent events here

[SithHappens]

Take your point Sith. Shouldn’t tell Musk and Trump though…think they’ve got 17 kids between the two of them!
See Trump has said Swift will ‘pay the price’ (of supporting Harris). Bit sinister.

I'm sure musk will be OK, he has afterall committed to spending 45 million month to support his pal trump

[ramAnag]

I'm sure musk will be OK, he has afterall committed to spending 45 million month to support his pal trump

In return for which Trump has promised Musk that he will head up a U.S. ‘Efficiency Commission’. Nothing like a little nepotism to grease the wheels of ‘efficiency’.