O/T - general election 2019

[Silly-miller]

Not the sort of change I want to embrace silly and whatever the result toneet millions will agree with that...whoever gets through the winning post tonight the biggest majority of people will not have voted for those policies. Its the same with your slavish argument for Brexit. Ok. 17.4 m voted for it? How many voted against 16, odd million people. How many didnt vote at all? So are you saying we have to ignore the views of a majority of people in this country? Should we tell 36m people to get a grip of themselves for the minority 17m? You would be a brave man. You talk on here as tho 56m people were for brexit and 1 person was against it

You have a point but that 30% who didn’t vote on the referendum like yourself have no right to complain when your couldn’t be assed to vote on a stupid question as you put it.

I believe in democracy we have never got 100% in elections ether does that mean we should send all them votes to brexit part because they didn’t vote? Your assuming that the people who couldn’t vote in the referendum would vote remain therefore I’m assuming everyone who didn’t vote today would vote brexit party see how f up that is?

[KerrAvon]

So coming second is a good result. After the best part of 10 years of the pain of austerity and with the Tories led by someone who has only a passing relationship with honesty...

Doesn't say much for Corbs, does it?

Do you think a hung parliament and yet more Brexit uncertainty would be a good outcome for the country

[mikemiller]

Don't particularly want to stay in the EU, but don't want to see the country flogged off to the USA either. There are other possibilities... Corbyn policies have never been tried so how do you know they won't work? Thatcherism, Reaganomics, etc, was great for the rich, but everybody else suffered. "Borisonomics" will be the same, and even more grovelling to the USA.

[Silly-miller]

Don't particularly want to stay in the EU, but don't want to see the country flogged off to the USA either. There are other possibilities... Corbyn policies have never been tried so how do you know they won't work? Thatcherism, Reaganomics, etc, was great for the rich, but everybody else suffered. "Borisonomics" will be the same, and even more grovelling to the USA.

Very good question mike and Corbyns renationalising may do us some good (apart from broadband I can’t see that being anything but a huge job loss) but there’s two ways he can do it the first is to buy it at the price the greedy owners/shareholders want which will cost billions and even then he could maybe buy one without a recession, the second option is seize control over a fixed price like he says he’s going to do, however this is against the EU law and to do it he would have to come out of the EU and out of the european court of justice which his front bench won’t let him do.

Problem labour has is they are trying to win leave voters by making false promises and they are false promises just like torys are making false promises with building new hospitals

Que the loyal labour roly dog “down boy” woof woof woof woof

[rolymiller]

Problem labour has is they are trying to win leave voters by making false promises and they are false promises just like torys are making false promises with building new hospitals

Yet you still voted Tory? What will you say if you or a member of your family cant get a hospital bed in future? Will you not regret helping to put in power a party who made these promises at the election and failed to carry em out...

[Silly-miller]

Yet you still voted Tory? What will you say if you or a member of your family cant get a hospital bed in future? Will you not regret helping to put in power a party who made these promises at the election and failed to carry em out...

What would you say if Corbyn sent us into another recession with his over spending and you had to go to a food bank that had no food because everyone else is broke too?

Your talking to a guy who’s spent 7 hours in A&E roly due to lack off staff on I know how bad it is but do you seriously think free movement with not just eu but the world will create more beds roly? I seriously doubt it

[rolymiller]

You have ignored my comment about media bias of course they will find it hard to compete against brainwashing working class votes into voting tory. its a constant uphill battle and till there is some sort of regulation to stop em doing it it will continue.

I know, I know freedom of speech and all that but what about the freedom of speech of people with left wing opinions. Have they not the right to be heard equally?

[KerrAvon]

You have ignored my comment about media bias of course they will find it hard to compete against brainwashing working class votes into voting tory. its a constant uphill battle and till there is some sort of regulation to stop em doing it it will continue.

I know, I know freedom of speech and all that but what about the freedom of speech of people with left wing opinions. Have they not the right to be heard equally?

You ignored my response to your media bias point the other day!

Why do you suppose that there aren't more Left leaning publications? Do you think it might be that people select a newspaper according to their own politics, which means that the market for Left leaning papers is too small to support any more publications? I think we can safely says that Raging reads The Guardian, Skawkbox and Russia Today more than he reads the Mail. Similarly, I doubt whether gf insist upon on his Daily Mirror.

As it is, I think that there are more right leaning titles serves a useful purpose in that it gives Labour supporters an excuse that is less painful to them than 'the electorate don’t like our policies and politicians'.

[howdydoo]

That's just harsh. Why if you are a Tory would you have no conscience? Personally, this time around, I think it makes sense to vote against Corbyn, Swinson and Wee Jimmy Krankie. Corbyn politics are just never going to work. The other two are simply undemocratic in everything they say and do.

It's all broken.

Name me three good local causes that make a difference and help the real needy people in this town. Bet you can't.

Can you name 3 Roly?

[rolymiller]

NO, no, no. I keep arguing this point but you ignore the power of socialisation in general that I keep putting to you. I love you to bits kerr but you must read some good books on socialisation and the power of it. I will get you one for xmas if you like. We are all socialised yes including you though you deny it. Socialisation is governed by power relations. Read a good book on sociology and you will get my drift. Go on give it a go and come back to me with any questions...