O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[BigFatPie]

I think Mapperleypie hit the nail on the head with the post after yours where you called them idiots, as they are only doing what the new rules allow them to do. If you think the new rules are wrong (and that remains to be seen), maybe you should look elsewhere for the idiots.

But when you see posts like the one from Banjopie, you’ve got to think it’s all a master stroke from the government; get people to blame each other instead of them.

[Mapperleypie]

But when you see posts like the one from Banjopie, you’ve got to think it’s all a master stroke from the government; get people to blame each other instead of them.

That's got to be the plan. The whole personal responsibility thing is complete horses4!t in a pandemic, the public need to be all on the same page otherwise it falls down rather quickly. It's going to cause division amongst the public and deflect blame from where it truly lies.

[upthemaggies]

They argue that not only is vaccination not particularly effective, but that it also encourages the virus to mutate.

Sage finally admitted this is a possibility in a meeting a week or so ago, the transcript was/is on the governments own website. Countries that have vaccinated the most now seem to be having the most cases. If vaxxed do encourage mutations then the worst thing you can do is have a load of vaxxed people indoors together.

Mutations might be less severe, but then again they might not be.

I think it's pretty widely accepted now that outdoors is safe because the virus needs to accumulate in a high volume to pass from person to person, so football matches should be OK, but obviously lots of people crammed into pubs afterwards might not be a good idea.

[BanjoPie]

"Jesus - some people do talk some ****e"

[BanjoPie]

That's got to be the plan. The whole personal responsibility thing is complete horses4!t in a pandemic, the public need to be all on the same page otherwise it falls down rather quickly. It's going to cause division amongst the public and deflect blame from where it truly lies.

If you think that personal responsibility is horse4!t - You are a bigger fool that I took you you for. We all have to do our bit, yes the Government have been sh!t but so have many many people been totally irresponsible and helped the virus to spread. Grow up man!!!

[SwalePie]

Well I'm happy to say I have had two doses of the Oxford vaccine and am excitedly looking forward to the next free update from Mr. Gates, complete with new functionality and features including 'Ludicrous Mode' which apparently can be used here on NCM. I see some are already implementing it.

[upthemaggies]

This was posted by Zuby a couple of weeks ago, I agree with most of it.......

20 Things I've Learned (Or Had Confirmed) About Humanity During The 'Pandemic' (THREAD):

1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.
2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.
3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger.
4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.
5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.
6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.
7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government.
8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.
9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.
10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.
11/ People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative.
12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.
13/ Hedonic adaptation occurs in both directions, and once inertia sets in, it is difficult to get people back to 'normal'.
14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.
15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.
16/ Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing.
17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.
18/ If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment.
19/ Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach.
20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Bonus thought:

21/ Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good)
As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', CAN have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad).

[Mapperleypie]

If you think that personal responsibility is horse4!t - You are a bigger fool that I took you you for. We all have to do our bit, yes the Government have been sh!t but so have many many people been totally irresponsible and helped the virus to spread. Grow up man!!!

Haha.

You do know that a government is able to set laws to protect its citizens for the greater good. You have probably heard of a speed limit before - do you think we should ditch them and rely on personal responsibility?

On the one hand you argue we should rely on individual personal responsibility to get us out of a pandemic but on the other hand people now following the new laws are ‘idiots’?

This government are playing the general public for complete morons.

[BanjoPie]

Haha.

You do know that a government is able to set laws to protect its citizens for the greater good. You have probably heard of a speed limit before - do you think we should ditch them and rely on personal responsibility?

On the one hand you argue we should rely on individual personal responsibility to get us out of a pandemic but on the other hand people now following the new laws are ‘idiots’?

This government are playing the general public for complete morons.

I appear to be conversing with one of them!

[Mapperleypie]

I appear to be conversing with one of them!

That’s rich coming from the person that started this Fred!